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  • #91
    Ray Lewis will be in the Top Ten. He may be in the top 3. Jon Beason will not be in the top 20 because he's #94 already.
    Last edited by Lurker64; 05-17-2011, 06:46 PM.
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    • #92
      Your right, I forgot all about him for some reason.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Patler View Post
        As it does for the one or two centers who probably made it, the 5 or so TEs and for every other player and every other position.
        Best in the sense of overall impact would be different than best at their respective position. Stud DL, LT, QB, RB would seem to be premium to me. I'd lean in favor of a few more of those guys.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #94
          Peter King has his own Top 100 that he's revealing on his MMQB column as the NFL Network does theirs. In his bottom 30 are both Sam Shields and Jermichael Finley. I'm guessing his list will be a lot closer to what we think.

          Since active players only voted for a Top 20 and the Network compiled based on that, there are going to be a lot of undeserving people on the list. For example, if everyone thought Nick Collins was a Top 30 player, but only a few thought he was Top 20, he'd be way down the list (like he is) even if he really is considered a Top 30 player.

          So definitely a problem with the way they compiled the list.
          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
            Peter King has his own Top 100 that he's revealing on his MMQB column as the NFL Network does theirs. In his bottom 30 are both Sam Shields and Jermichael Finley. I'm guessing his list will be a lot closer to what we think.

            Since active players only voted for a Top 20 and the Network compiled based on that, there are going to be a lot of undeserving people on the list. For example, if everyone thought Nick Collins was a Top 30 player, but only a few thought he was Top 20, he'd be way down the list (like he is) even if he really is considered a Top 30 player.

            So definitely a problem with the way they compiled the list.
            Where did you find out how they voted? That is a really stupid way to vote.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by channtheman View Post
              Where did you find out how they voted? That is a really stupid way to vote.
              Peter King explained the process in his column right before he showed his 70-100
              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                Best in the sense of overall impact would be different than best at their respective position. Stud DL, LT, QB, RB would seem to be premium to me. I'd lean in favor of a few more of those guys.
                I wouldn't put RB on the list of premium positions. It would be QB, LT, pass rusher, and cover corner. RBs are kind of a dime a dozen. You don't need a good RB to win. It's tough to win without a good QB, pass blocking LT, pass rusher (whether a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB), and cover corner. Luckily, we had Rodgers, Clifton, Matthews, and Williams/Woodson/Shields last year.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                  Peter King explained the process in his column right before he showed his 70-100
                  Got it. I think it would have made more sense to just have the players vote top 100. Or if they must limit the number because most of the players can't count that high, they should have done top 50. Just going off the top 20 seems like it would be way to easy to leave some good players out and then have what happened with Collins.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by channtheman View Post
                    Got it. I think it would have made more sense to just have the players vote top 100. Or if they must limit the number because most of the players can't count that high, they should have done top 50. Just going off the top 20 seems like it would be way to easy to leave some good players out and then have what happened with Collins.
                    Yeah, Top 20 just seems like a bad way to do this since it will underrepresent certain positions. Very few people have a guard, tight end, or defensive tackle listed in their "top 20 players in the entire NFL" and those who do may disagree on which one. Though a lot of people would probably have guys from that position in the 20-50 range.

                    They should really at least ask for people to rank at least half of the length of the list.
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                    • There's no way the top 100 should lack a long-snapper.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        There's no way the top 100 should lack a long-snapper.
                        Or a punter. Some of these guys go in the third round...
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • 70: Miles Austin
                          69: John Abraham
                          68: Antrel Rolle
                          67: Brian Waters
                          66: Richard Seymour
                          65: Vonta Leach
                          64: Tamba Hali
                          63: Cameron Wake
                          62: Jerod Mayo
                          61: Brandon Marshall

                          Assorted Tidbits:
                          All but two Miami alums in the countdown were coached by Butch Davis
                          21 players on the list have suited up for 2 or more teams in their careers
                          Only one FB on the list
                          No kickers, punters, or longsnappers on the list.
                          Only one player from the state of Maryland on the list.
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                          • Vonta Leach? Seriously? Better than Jennings, Raji, and Collins?
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • I'm sorry, but the NFL Network should take some heat for creating a really shitty concept wrapped in a mangled tortilla of WTF?

                              I call upon Skinbasket, Lord of Foul Invective, to cast an imprecation upon the producers of this disaster.

                              I saw twenty seconds of one episode and it was Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco.

                              I'm done caring. The only reason I click on the thread is to fix the cheese icon.
                              [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                              • Can he do that on command?
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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