Lawrence Guy

[Guiness]

With the fact that DL don't play special teams, and we only suit 5 on game days, odds are we only keep 6 DL on the roster. Neal, Pickett, and Raji are starters, with Harold Green likely being both Raji and Pickett's backup and an easy healthy scratch against teams that won't run the ball much. So we've got two spots open between Harrell, Wynn, Wilson, Guy, and Curtis Young. Of that set, I think Wilson makes the roster on he basis of his play and his (presumed jump from year 1 and 2). I think Young is destined for the practice squad so Guy has to hope that neither Harrell nor Wynn distinguishes themselves. As much as we've given up on Harrell as a fanbase, you only achieve a $100,000 savings by cutting him (due to bonus acceleration) and when you factor in the fact that we'll have to pay somebody else more than $100,000 to play in his roster spot, so if Harrell is healthy and productive I think he makes the roster. If he gets hurt again, I think it's Wynn.

Lawrence Guy just seems destined for the practice squad, but I wish him all the best in the world.

What has the Pack`s priority been with the PS over the past couple of years? Do we use it to stash players we'd like to hold on to, but don't have room for on the roster, or is it used to rotate guys through and 'interview' them? I don't remember - did we try and hold on to Wynn on our PS last year?

aside: looked at Wynn's wikipedia page, edited some awful punctuation. Saw that he scored 12 on the Wonderlific. Ouch.

[MJZiggy]

Shoes don't kick people, people do.

Unless the kid was wearing spiked metal stilettos, I'm not sure how a shoe is a deadly weapon. I somehow doubt that if the boy were wearing these shoes that the bully would be paying any attention to his brother...

[Guiness]

Unless the kid was wearing spiked metal stilettos, I'm not sure how a shoe is a deadly weapon. I somehow doubt that if the boy were wearing these shoes that the bully would be paying any attention to his brother...

'laying the boots' to someone after they go down it without a doubt assault with a deadly weapon. As is sucker punching.

[BobDobbs]

I listened to the conference call after he was drafted over on packers.com

http://www.packers.com/media-center/audio/DE-Lawrence-Guy-conference-call/faee1bd9-44c4-43fa-b34b-aa682dc8314f

There's some good stuff. He sounds really sincere when he says he never quits on a play and that he is a determined worker. But, right at the start he's asked why he came out early. And he basically says,'I accomplished my goal of becoming a mentor and a team leader.' That's just a strange answer for me to hear. I mean isn't that why you stay? To be a mentor, a leader, and graduate?

It's not like he went in the top ten. I'm excited to have him as a seventh rounder. Seems like a good value. D-Lineman are tough to hide on a practice squad though, he might have to make the team outright.

[Lurker64]

What has the Pack`s priority been with the PS over the past couple of years? Do we use it to stash players we'd like to hold on to, but don't have room for on the roster, or is it used to rotate guys through and 'interview' them? I don't remember - did we try and hold on to Wynn on our PS last year?

aside: looked at Wynn's wikipedia page, edited some awful punctuation. Saw that he scored 12 on the Wonderlific. Ouch.

We do some stashing and some developing. You don't need to look at so many people that you need to keep all eight spots in flux. Usually it's 5-7 guys who are stashed and developed, and 1-3 guys who are brought in and out as intensive scouting. People also leave the practice squad when other people sign them to their roster. We probably would have held on to Meredith and Brohm on the PS if Buffalo had not signed them to their roster. Just by the nature of the 5-tech DE position, there's very few guys who come into the league able to play it at a high level (even first round 5-techs take some time), so we're always going to want to keep a guy around who's a 5-tech prospect with PS eligibility. If we don't have one on the roster, expect us to draft one (we snagged C.J. Wilson in the 7th in the 2010 draft precisely because Wynn didn't have PS eligibility. Likewise, I think the Lawrence Guy pick was motivated by Wilson having played enough last year that he can't go on the PS.)

We would have put Wynn on the PS, except for the fact that he was not eligible for it. So he's in a "make the roster or get cut" situation.

[bobblehead]

"One day, when Lawrence was in sixth grade, his older brother Dell – an eighth grader – pummeled a bully who had attacked Lawrence for the crime of not buying the bully a Gatorade with his own lunch money. Dell broke the boy’s nose, and because the school had a zero-tolerance policy for fighting, Dell was charged with battery and assault with a deadly weapon (for kicking the bully) and given a citation. He had to appear in court and was sent to anger management classes."


Wow has the world changed. When I beat the shit out of a bully in sixth grade who kept trying to pick fights with me and other kids, the bully's parents complained because he had a knot and shiner on his head. But our teacher figured out what happened and basically dismissed the whole thing. He knew the bully got what he deserved. Assault with a deadly weapon. What horse shit.

http://geekdrop.com/content/fat-kid-body-slams-his-skinny-bully-must-see

Of course the kid defending himself is being sued....and its not even America.

[Kiwon]

"Quick combine interviews in a frenzied setting would probably be difficult for him, even as his coaches in college and a few who worked with him on draft preparation said he had an excellent grasp of the Arizona State plays and formations, having carefully studied them using symbols as a guide."
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Of course, everyone wishes him well but the article leaves it unclear whether Lawrence Guy continues to need special instruction or has he developed a system where he can essentially teach himself. The NFL schemes are complex and require instant readjustment play to play. That means a lot of memorization beforehand. Many physically talented guys just can't cut it. Hopefully Lawrence will have some success and his legend will continue to grow and grow.

It's quite an inspirational story.

[SkinBasket]

Just what we need, another idiot who can't read a playbook.

[mraynrand]

Just what we need, another idiot who can't read a playbook.

Don't be cruel. He can read, only right to left and in reverse like in that movie "Doppelgänger" or the remake:

[sharpe1027]

Just what we need, another idiot who can't read a playbook.

Quoted to appease the cry for attention.

[Cheesehead Craig]

"Quick combine interviews in a frenzied setting would probably be difficult for him, even as his coaches in college and a few who worked with him on draft preparation said he had an excellent grasp of the Arizona State plays and formations, having carefully studied them using symbols as a guide."
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Of course, everyone wishes him well but the article leaves it unclear whether Lawrence Guy continues to need special instruction or has he developed a system where he can essentially teach himself. The NFL schemes are complex and require instant readjustment play to play. That means a lot of memorization beforehand. Many physically talented guys just can't cut it. Hopefully Lawrence will have some success and his legend will continue to grow and grow.

It's quite an inspirational story.

Is there a lot of stuff the DL have to know compared to an OL? I mean their job is pretty much beat the guy in front of you or run to this gap and try and make a play.

[SkinBasket]

Quoted to appease the cry for attention.

Yes, I need attention from the half a dozen nerds who still read this site...

You'll have to forgive me for not fawning over the latest human interest story about a borderline retarded kid who can play football.

[Pugger]

A retarded kid's GPA isn't near 3.50 in college.

[Spaulding]

If Guy shows anything, there's little chance that Ted doesn't keep him over Harrell. IMHO, Harrell only makes the squad if DL get injured or don't show much. You can't trust his injury situation, so you aren't going to keep him over a player who shows promise. The final spot probably comes down to Wynn vs. Guy, but I wouldn't put it past Ted and Mike to keep 7 DL, if they all show they can play. They've had unbalanced rosters before.

I'm sure I'll be accused of having downed a few gallons of kool aid with this post but I have to believe that if Harrell's back issues (I know a big iff but it wasn't his back that was a problem last year but a freak extra point injury to his ACL) are behind him that he could become a solid starter for us. He just seems to have been such a force as a Volunteer and has looked pretty darn good in flashes that unless his back flares up again that he'll make the team.

Would be a nice surprise to see even better line play this year with Neal back, Harrell finally playing to his draft status and other players further improving even while we lose Jenkins to FA and Jolly is getting his drank on.

[SkinBasket]

A retarded kid's GPA isn't near 3.50 in college.

Who said he was retarded?

And I knew plenty of fucking morons who left college with better GPAs than that.