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Race is an issue here. I talked about it earlier. But it's not my issue. It's theirs.Originally posted by Zool View PostLike I said other than the title which was a desperate cry for attention he makes valid points. Skim not lest ye be skimmed.
I've provided two examples of an identifiable sympathy in the black community for black athletes who commit crimes then fail to accept accountability or responsibility. That's hardly generalizing. Unless someone wants to argue that the black community didn't embrace Mike Vick in a way they would not have embraced a white athlete guilty of the same crimes or that they won't embrace Plaxico. Prove that, and I may be guilty of generalizing the black community. Or predicting the generalization of the black community. Or generalizing the prediction of the response of the black community."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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Then stop accusing me of desperate grabs for attention you dirty slut. The title is fine as it is. See my self-important edit.Originally posted by Zool View PostI agree and said that in the previous previous post.
Brings back memories of whatever thread that was that you as a moderator and I changed the name on a dozen times. Those were the days. When you were powerful. Now you are only flaccid."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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You even yell at me when I agree with you. This is why we can't have nice things.Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostThen stop accusing me of desperate grabs for attention you dirty slut. The title is fine as it is. See my self-important edit.
Brings back memories of whatever thread that was that you as a moderator and I changed the name on a dozen times. Those were the days. When you were powerful. Now you are only flaccid.
Attention whoreOriginally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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So pretty much if Plaxico was white you wouldnt have a problem.Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostRace is an issue here. I talked about it earlier. But it's not my issue. It's theirs.
I've provided two examples of an identifiable sympathy in the black community for black athletes who commit crimes then fail to accept accountability or responsibility. That's hardly generalizing. Unless someone wants to argue that the black community didn't embrace Mike Vick in a way they would not have embraced a white athlete guilty of the same crimes or that they won't embrace Plaxico. Prove that, and I may be guilty of generalizing the black community. Or predicting the generalization of the black community. Or generalizing the prediction of the response of the black community.
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No, he maneuvered you into making that argument. He wrote: "I've provided two examples of an identifiable sympathy in the black community for black athletes who commit crimes then fail to accept accountability or responsibility. That's hardly generalizing. Unless ....."Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostHe arguing that the black community only embraced him because hes black. So does that mean the white community did not because hes not white?
Leaving the distraction of the title aside, in his first few posts he's making a point that you completely missed. See if you can discern the point and repeat it. It really has nothing to do with race."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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From what I can tell, if Plaxico was white, Skin would have a problem and that problem would be that he shot himself and took no responsibility for it, played the victim card instead of owning up to his own role in the injury and then setting himself up as some sort of hero as if he overcame what others did to him when in reality the idiot shot himself. He could have come out and said "I totally shot myself. It was the dumbest damn thing I've ever done and there's no one to blame but me. I'm glad to be out of prison and hope like hell that my own stupidity doesn't prevent me from getting back to doing what I love."Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostSo pretty much if Plaxico was white you wouldnt have a problem.
But he didn't. And THAT is the problem. If you think this is white/black, ask me if I think Ben's new wife has a brain in her head for marrying such a misogynist. He didn't come clean and I haven't forgiven him either."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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And as for you...my neighbors are not black, they have house dogs that they don't leave out all day and when you decide to assign ideas to me because some idiot liberal that has nothing to do with me thought of them, you are generalizing.Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostAll of you are going to have to stop generally saying I make generalizations and provide some specifics of my generalizing, otherwise you're just generally generalizing what I say, which doesn't really advance your position any more than saying, "uh-uh." I may at some times label individuals into a general category based on their actions or words. And I may sometimes generalize to make a point about generalization, but unless someone shows me where I generalized someone out of pure generalization, I'm not having it. Not trying to challenge anyone to dig through a bunch of posts, but if you're going to make a vague accusation of generalization, then I would expect something to back that up. Otherwise you're generalizing me as a generalizationist without even the fair opportunity to respond.
Generalization sounds so much nicer than racism."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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If Plaxico was white, I'm pretty sure Skin would still have a problem with how he's handled this. I'm not so sure Skin would have started a thread about it.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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