Jolly

[get louder at lambeau]

BTW, why do you think Jesus is lost?

Um...

What?

Where did that come from? Did I write something about Jesus being lost? Or is "Jesus" a fabled anti-Semitic poster's user name on this site or something?

[Tarlam!]

Um...

What?

Where did that come from? Did I write something about Jesus being lost? Or is "Jesus" a fabled anti-Semitic poster's user name on this site or something?

Come on, man. When you say "or some other bullshit" about any religon, you're offending people. This isn't FYI. We debate football here so, I won't push the point. I compliment Rand on his moderation.

[MJZiggy]

Was Jolly's crime really worse than Michael Vicks'?
Ben Roethlisberger's?
Ray Lewis'
Donte Stallworth's?
Fred Evan's?
Ricky Mannings'?

The many other players guilty of domestic battery, assault or steroid abuse?

No, it wasn't at all. But right now he's one instance from getting thrown out of the league for good under the substance abuse policy.

[ThunderDan]

Um...

What?

Where did that come from? Did I write something about Jesus being lost? Or is "Jesus" a fabled anti-Semitic poster's user name on this site or something?

Do you really not get the joke?

You said maybe he will find Jesus. Why do you need to find something unless it is lost?

It's a play on words. Lighten up it will do us all good.

[mraynrand]

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Moral crusaders!!!! My first post in months and this is what I wasted it on.

Jesus, find me.

On a football related note, I agree with Patler. Consuming a little purple drank is no worse than sexual assault, or beating ones spouse, girlfriend, or baby's momma.

[Fritz]

I have a feeling the Pack might not cut him. As Patler said, the team, including MM, seems to like the guy and think he's really not evil, just kinda easily influenced (or, you could say, not too smart about his own life). If they think he can be a good soldier for the season, and if he's reinstated, they could keep the guy.

He's a different case than Brandon Underwood, who seems destined to be cut even before the ink is dry on the new CBA.

[Pugger]

I have a feeling the Pack might not cut him. As Patler said, the team, including MM, seems to like the guy and think he's really not evil, just kinda easily influenced (or, you could say, not too smart about his own life). If they think he can be a good soldier for the season, and if he's reinstated, they could keep the guy.

He's a different case than Brandon Underwood, who seems destined to be cut even before the ink is dry on the new CBA.

Of course we'll have to see if Goodell lifts Jolly's suspension after a CBA is reached this summer...

[get louder at lambeau]

Do you really not get the joke?

You said maybe he will find Jesus. Why do you need to find something unless it is lost?

It's a play on words. Lighten up it will do us all good.

Right over my head. The serious first sentence had me taking the second sentence the same way, I guess. My bad.

When you think of it that way- "finding Jesus", he doesn't need to be lost either. He could be hiding.

[hoosier]

I have a feeling the Pack might not cut him. As Patler said, the team, including MM, seems to like the guy and think he's really not evil, just kinda easily influenced (or, you could say, not too smart about his own life). If they think he can be a good soldier for the season, and if he's reinstated, they could keep the guy.

He's a different case than Brandon Underwood, who seems destined to be cut even before the ink is dry on the new CBA.

True that, but if the Packers were not already stacked at CB, or if Underwood had a little more Tramon Williams in him, I bet we might be hearing about how Brandon is really a good guy at heart, how he loves to play the game, and how they just need to keep him out of trouble (aka Wisconsin Dells)

[sharpe1027]

Does it cost the Packers anything to keep him while he is suspended? If not, they might as well take a wait-and-see approach. If he's not suspended, it doesn't make sense a whole lot of sense to straight cut him. You would think another team would give up something for him.

[get louder at lambeau]

Does it cost the Packers anything to keep him while he is suspended?

Nope.

[MadScientist]

Was Jolly's crime really worse than Michael Vicks'?
Ben Roethlisberger's?
Ray Lewis'
Donte Stallworth's?
Fred Evan's?
Ricky Mannings'?

The many other players guilty of domestic battery, assault or steroid abuse?

Worse? Not by a long shot, but he can't stay clean. He was arrested once, failed drug tests twice leading to a year long suspension, and while on suspension and probation, gets arrested for the same damn thing. He is either too addicted to the stuff for treatment to work, or is unwilling to do what he needs to do to stay clean. He might get reinstated in another year, but after 2 years out and repeat offenses, who will want to take a chance.

[sharpe1027]

Was Jolly's crime really worse than Michael Vicks'?
Ben Roethlisberger's?
Ray Lewis'
Donte Stallworth's?
Fred Evan's?
Ricky Mannings'?

The many other players guilty of domestic battery, assault or steroid abuse?

Worse in what sense? Philosophically? Socially? Legally? Monetarily? Harm to others? Harm to the NFL? According to fans personal opinions? According to Goodell's personal opinion?

The NFL sets its own policy for what is worse. I don't know too much about what their basis is, but whether or not it is "worse" in some abstract sense is certainly not their only consideration.

[Fritz]

True that, but if the Packers were not already stacked at CB, or if Underwood had a little more Tramon Williams in him, I bet we might be hearing about how Brandon is really a good guy at heart, how he loves to play the game, and how they just need to keep him out of trouble (aka Wisconsin Dells)

You cynic! Everyone's just looking out for these guys' best interest!