THE THREE DAY WINDOW..WHAT DOES TT DO ???? GO ON RECORD

[Smidgeon]

I don't know how you get rid of Kuhn and his flexiblity. He has the ability to play both running back positions and he plays a lot of special teams. MM and TT like player that are flexible more than anything else.

I would've thought the same, but they cut Frankenbacker last year...

[Smidgeon]

I don't know if I would say whatsoever, but I agree we are well equipped to handle his loss. This is probably a very unpopular statement, but I would take Jones over Nelson, Driver, and Cobb right now. So IMO I feel that we are losing a starter. He drops a lot of passes, but not anymore than Nelson and Driver. If I'm not mistaken these were the drops last season:

Jones: 10
Nelson: 10
Driver: 7
Jennings: 3

I think we just remember JJ drops more b/c they probably would have been big plays. But I think he is the second most talented Wr on the roster. I wouldn’t count Driver as a starting Wr anymore, and esp. with the lockout I wouldn’t expect much from Cobb as a receiving threat right out the gate.

Wasn't there a quote right after the draft regarding Cobb that said something along the lines of, "He just knows football"? If so, I'd think Cobb would still stand a good shot of contributing significantly.

[Lurker64]

Wasn't there a quote right after the draft regarding Cobb that said something along the lines of, "He just knows football"? If so, I'd think Cobb would still stand a good shot of contributing significantly.

Just because you "know football" doesn't mean you "know the playbook" and if you don't run the right route, nobody is going to throw the ball to you.

[Bretsky]

I think they lock up Money Crosby in that three day window; kickers don't make that much money and there's nothing better out there
It would not surprise me if they find a way to lock up Kuhn in that window either

I think they let the rest go shop

I'd be on board for locking up Jenkins and College and Jones during that period but IMO there is just not enough money to do this and keep all their starts going forward

[Brandon494]

We lose Jones and add Finely, Cobb, and Williams. We still have Rodgers at QB also right? I think we'll be okay. Also there is no way they don't resign Kuhn and Crosby.

[pbmax]

I think Hall over Kuhn if the brain trust is convinced they will keep Grant, Jackson and Starks. That's five backs plus the usual assortment of 5 TEs. Grant can bull doze and hang onto the ball, Jackson can catch and run the screen game.

However, given the market for FBs, both could be resigned for little damage and the team could use the lockout expanded camp roster to let them figure it out and see if Q-bert can ascend to the starting role at FB.

Of my re-signees, Jackson will available at a reasonable price given he is a vet RB who is basically one step over replacement level. Crosby, however, could easily get priced over the Packers value on him. He is perfect for Green Bay, but I doubt Patler is the only GM to look at his FG% minus the 50 yard kicks. Colledge might be that functional but ugly lamp you cannot get anyone to bite on at the garage sale. But someone will need a left guard who could step in at tackle in an emergency.

Re-signed
Smith
Hall
Jackson
Spitz
Crosby

Gone
Wilhelm
Bigby
Kuhn
Jenkins
Colledge
Jones

[Bretsky]

what you described is why TT needs to lock Crosby up during the three day period. He's have plenty of value for a dome team and would be a touchback machine for years to come

[Smidgeon]

Just because you "know football" doesn't mean you "know the playbook" and if you don't run the right route, nobody is going to throw the ball to you.

I'm not saying it does. What I'm saying is that a higher understanding of general concepts as a base leads to a increased capacity for picking things up more quickly than someone without that higher understanding.

[pbmax]

what you described is why TT needs to lock Crosby up during the three day period. He's have plenty of value for a dome team and would be a touchback machine for years to come

Takes two to tango. Thompson, who has shown he isn't overly fond of spending on kicking, might have a number in mind that is pegged more toward the FG percentage than the Kickoffs. Crosby and agent might see kicking in warm weather or a dome as an opportunity to land in a few Pro Bowls.

What we haven't seen is what Thompson will do with a young kicker who has proved himself reliable. He made a competitive offer for Vinatieri before, so its not out of the realm of possibility.

[red]

i don't see jenkins coming back. with a 3-4 defense the guys on your d-line don't really have to be all world players, and you certainly don't need guys on that line that are paid as all-worlders. jenkins will get paid, and good for him, but we can't tie up huge money on a 3-4 DE. plus we already won one super bowl without him. we'll survive

jones makes a lot of nice plays, but he just seems to make so many huge mistakes at the absolute worst times. he's another guy that will probably get some good money on the market. we have jennings, driver, jordy, cobb now, plus finley, dj williams, crabtree, and some running backs that need to catch balls. i just don't see us spending any coin on a #4 wr. he can be a #2 somewhere else. let him go

colledge can go, for one reason or another i've never liked him. i think you try and decide if bulaga or sherrod is going to be the future left tackle, then have them replace dg for this year, and let the other master the right side

to me, its a no brainer that you resign crosby. it takes a special kicker with a big leg to kick in green bay in december and january. you gotta keep him

we got a lot of running back on the roster right now. unless we trade grant for some reason, i really don't see why we would keep jackson. he might be more valuable to someone else then he is to us

bigby is gone, burnett and peprah are both much more solid overall

the rest i don't expect to keep unless the come back cheap.

i guess i wouldn't mind kuhn coming back, he seems to be able to do a little bit of everything

[Bretsky]

i don't see jenkins coming back. with a 3-4 defense the guys on your d-line don't really have to be all world players, and you certainly don't need guys on that line that are paid as all-worlders. jenkins will get paid, and good for him, but we can't tie up huge money on a 3-4 DE. plus we already won one super bowl without him. we'll survive

agree with any of your player points............but Jenkins made some nice plays at key points of the season and played well in the playoffs. I'm not sure I'd say we won a SB without him

[bobblehead]

Curious, why Hall over Kuhn? I know the prevailing thought is that Hall is better at ST and a better blocker, but Kuhn adds an offensive threat that Hall never has as a runner or receiver. But for me the clincher is that Hall seems to miss about 4 games every year with injuries, while playing very few snaps. Just too unreliable to take him over Kuhn.

I actually really like the way Hall catches the ball out of the backfield. It just looks natural. He is superior blocking and ST. Running? Well, the only time kuhn or hall is getting handoffs is when we are desperate. Add in the H-back we drafted and I think Kuhns days are numbered is all.

[bobblehead]

i don't see jenkins....... we already won one super bowl without him. we'll survive

Wasn't it Jenkins that hit Benburgers arm on the Collins pick 6?? Or was it someone else?

[bobblehead]

Why does nobody think we resign Bigby at rock bottom prices? If he is healthy (finally) and comes cheap (can't imagine him getting a big offer) I think he is a good roster guy.

[Joemailman]

Wasn't it Jenkins that hit Benburgers arm on the Collins pick 6?? Or was it someone else?

I thought it was Howard Green. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erzMuwXDRK8