Official Training Camp Thread

[Brandon494]

Man crush? Haha I'm pretty sure I haven't started any fan clubs for Lang . I just know what I'm talking about when it comes to evaluating talent.

[Harlan Huckleby]

"evaluating talent" - that sounds pretty man crushy to me.

nobody is evaluating talent, we just react to some tweets by bored guys watching practice. What do we really know about Lang? He wasn't very good when he got in games. (ya, ya, he had an owwy on his wrist.) We know almost nothing about Sherrod until he plays some preseason games. We'll have something real to talk about (other than man crushes, and gripes about the unfairness of draft status) in coming weeks.

[mraynrand]

MY guess is that Sherrod will see pt at LT before the season is over. Hope he is up for it, because even the great gazoo helmet won't save Rodgers if his blindside is a turnstile

[Yoop]

"evaluating talent" - that sounds pretty man crushy to me.

nobody is evaluating talent, we just react to some tweets by bored guys watching practice. What do we really know about Lang? He wasn't very good when he got in games. (ya, ya, he had an owwy on his wrist.) We know almost nothing about Sherrod until he plays some preseason games. We'll have something real to talk about (other than man crushes, and gripes about the unfairness of draft status) in coming weeks.

all we have to go on right now is what we see and hear about from practice, going by that, we see a st round pick struggling to play G, and another that had a wrist injury keep him out of competing for the job last year, till we see either in game situations it's hard to comment more about which has the upper hand in this position battle, while some assume a 1st round pick would have a brighter future than a 3rd rounder ( I think Lang was a 3rd) it doesn't always hold true, and while ya want your 1st round pick playing as soon as possible, he still has to be the best man for the job.

[3irty1]

HH is right. Best possible case for the packers is that we have 10 probowl quality lineman and all things being equal, the most versatile ones make better backups. He didn't say it was likely just that it was the best case scenario. However I have a hard time imagining Sherrod beating Lang even in an unfair fight at LG. It would take one hell of a rookie to do so. Lang has been a starting caliber lineman since his rookie year IMO and is finally competing for what is his best position, guard. The fact that Sherrod can even compete with Lang who is stronger, quicker, and has a body type more conducive to playing guard makes me reason to hope he'll be a monster at tackle one day.

[Scott Campbell]

i was in the end where flynn and harrell were throwing balls into the nets from like 20 or 30 yards away. from what i saw, flynn is waaaaaaay more accurate the harrell

oh, and FYI. Cobb also has a cannon for an arm and throws a nice tight spiral. just something to keep in mind

one other thing i'd like to mention is, after last night, my respect for james jones shot up through the roof. the amount of shit that guy takes from the fans, to his face, is really pathetic. he came out and got on a kids bike with a big smile on his face and some asshole makes a crack about him needing to hang onto the ball, or not to drop the bike. then every time he caught a ball, a few dozen people would give him sarcastic cheers. one guy next to me even made sure everyone could hear him when he would yell out, "holy shit, he held on to one". then after the next nice catch, "holy shit, he held on to another. if it wasn't for the guy having 4 little kids with him, i would have thumped his ginger ass right on the spot. to jones credit, he kept a smile on his face the whole time, and did look really good.

i've bashed jones on here, but my god, in person lets try to give him some support, not kick him in the nuts. dudes got talent, he just has some mental lapses. and ragging on him all the time isn't going to help fix that IMO

Agreed. If they want to do that they should move to NYC or Boston.

[mraynrand]

Agreed. If they want to do that they should move to NYC or Boston.

I used to see stuff like that at training camp, and I'd ask the loudmouth: "As a Bears fan, why'd you waste all your money to come up here and watch the Packers?"

[Harlan Huckleby]

all things being equal, the most versatile ones make better backups. He didn't say it was likely just that it was the best case scenario. However I have a hard time imagining Sherrod beating Lang even in an unfair fight at LG.

Hey, somebody gets my point! I tend to agree that Sherrod looks out of place at guard, and if I had to bet the meth lab, I'd say he won't be the starter on opening day.

[Joemailman]

8:31

TomSilverstein: Bush is having a career practice. Breaking up passes right and left. [via Twitter]
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He also has an INT earlier. Tramon and Woodson not practicing with 1's tonight, which means they may not play Saturday. Will see a lot of Shields, Lee and Bush. Who else, with House out?

[pbmax]

8:31

TomSilverstein: Bush is having a career practice. Breaking up passes right and left. [via Twitter]
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He also has an INT earlier. Tramon and Woodson not practicing with 1's tonight, which means they may not play Saturday. Will see a lot of Shields, Lee and Bush. Who else, with House out?

Gordy?

Bush will keep trying until Skin shows him some love. Or at least photoshops love onto someone's genitals.

[vince]

So I was at practice tonight and Wayne Larrivee comes walking up wanting to watch practice right next to me. He said the view from the top row of the stands is much better than over on the other side where the press stands behind the players. Had some good conversation with ol’ Wayne.

• He thinks Lang will win the LG job. Sherrod just isn’t built to play LG.
• Talking about which of the tight ends will survive and which won’t, he said Crabtree has had a tough camp catching the ball.
• Gurly told Wayne that he hasn’t dropped a ball in practice or a game since his sophomore year in college. Wayne said “I don’t know if that’s true, but I haven’t seen him drop one yet this year.”
• He’s cutting down on his Big Ten Network schedule this year because it’s just too much prep work.
• He’ll be at the White House tomorrow with the team.
• I mentioned Shields’ inconsistency this camp and he said, “Don’t read too much into that. You don’t see Woodson doing much in these practices. They try new things a lot. It’s kind of like being out on the driving range for a lot of the vets.”
• He likes how Harrell is developing.
• He’s not sure what he’s going to say to follow up his now famous, “The title is back in town!” phrase if the Packers repeat.
• He had high praise for Bulaga and his development this year.
• In talking about the undrafted free agent crop, he said that the Packers had a hell of a hard time getting guys to come into their camp this year because there’s so much depth throughout the roster. I mentioned that the Packers do as well as anyone in giving these guys a legit shot and he said that this year was really tough for them because most of the guys recognized that there are fewer opportunities in camp this year across the league, and the Packers just don’t have much room for these guys to stick.
• He didn't say it explicitly, but Wayne doesn't seem to be a big Finley fan. He was talking about how much Finley was talking, and then said, "And then he gets hurt again already." When I countered with how much of a difference maker he is on the field, he brought up how that makes no difference if you can't be available. He was joking about his "glute contusion." Surprised me a bit.

I also met Desmond Bishop’s family. They drove from California to help him move into his new house and are driving to Cleveland before driving back to Cali. His family was very friendly and good folks.

My own observations from this practice were:

• D.J. Williams showed up again with his ability to run sharp routes and catch the ball.
• Sherrod and Lang continually switched between Guard and Tackle all night. I can’t say who fared better where though.
• It surprised me, but Jarrett Bush was covering guys like a blanket. He had at least one pick and a few knockdowns.
• The back-up linemen are not impressing. Flynn and Harrell both were scrambling for their lives.
• Tramon Williams is really good.
• I thought Elmore showed up the last two nights. He had a pick last night and was disruptive on a few occasions.
• D.J. Smith got beat a couple times in the passing game.
• Shields had a pick at the very end of practice that was beautiful. He jumped a crossing route by Gurly, who's like 6'6" and jumped up to pick the ball just before Gurly got it. They fought a bit for it, but Shields came down with it while landing on his hip or tailbone. He stayed down and was in serious pain for a bit. He appeared to walk it off. But it was a great play by Shields against a guy 8" taller than him.

[pbmax]

I also met Desmond Bishop’s family. They drove from California to help him move into his new house and are driving to Cleveland before driving back to Cali. His family was very friendly and good folks.

My own observations from this practice were:

• D.J. Williams showed up again with his ability to run sharp routes and catch the ball.
• Sherrod and Lang continually switched between Guard and Tackle all night. I can’t say who fared better where though.
• It surprised me, but Jarrett Bush was covering guys like a blanket. He had at least one pick and a few knockdowns.
• The back-up linemen are not impressing. Flynn and Harrell both were scrambling for their lives.
• Tramon Williams is really good.
• I thought Elmore showed up the last two nights. He had a pick last night and was disruptive on a few occasions.
• D.J. Smith got beat a couple times in the passing game.
• Shields had a pick at the very end of practice that was beautiful. He jumped a crossing route by Gurly, who's like 6'6" and jumped up to pick the ball just before Gurly got it. They fought a bit for it, but Shields came down with it while landing on his hip or tailbone. He stayed down and was in serious pain for a bit. He appeared to walk it off. But it was a great play by Shields against a guy 8" taller than him.

Great stuff vince. Good to hear Desmond's family is both supportive and understanding of the fanbase of lunatics. Hope they had a good time.

[Guiness]

tx Vince

[mission]

Yeah, good stuff, Vince. Thanks!

[HarveyWallbangers]

Good stuff, Vince. Good to get Wayne's opinions.