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  • Originally posted by vince View Post
    http://wearegreenbay.com/trainingcam...xt?nxd_id=8987
    [snip...]

    Scheme-wise, "Corner Oakie" was one of the defenses used today. Oakie refers to the 3-4, while corner brings in another cornerback (Sam Shields). A safety leaves and Charles Woodson moves back to that position. It's a set that's good against the run because it moves Woodson into a run support position. Out at corner, an offense can use a receiver to occupy him in coverage. Putting playmakers into position to make plays, that's what NFL coaching is all about.
    Have to shake your head at that...it's good against the run because you bring in a CB to replace a safety??? lol - says a lot about Woodson, doesn't it?
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    Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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    • Originally posted by Guiness View Post
      Have to shake your head at that...it's good against the run because you bring in a CB to replace a safety??? lol - says a lot about Woodson, doesn't it?
      It's also why Woodson has a great shot at the Hall. He has a signature style of play that means he can and does do things no one else can or does. Pretty cool to be a Packers fan right now.
      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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      • I guess we would ave to assume that Wood's shoulder is OK then. They wouldn't be scheming like that if it was still a concern.

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        • I'm wondering how the training camp injuries are stacking up against other teams'. Seems like the list is long. I'd like to see Davon House get back and Alex Green as well.
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • Doesn't it look like the plan with Sherrod and Lang is to identify the best guard and best tackle? You have to believe that Clifton won't play every game. he might make the whole season, but miss some time. So when that happens you have to put your best backup LT out there. That might be Lang. If so, then you have to have Sherrod ready to play guard. Thus all the shifting of those two to play a lot at both spots. They have to have someone to step in for Clifton - and that person will likely be the same person who starts at LG. The benchwarmer will then likely come in for the LG. Right now you have to believe Lang is the guy unless Sherrod progresses and plays lights out at at least one position. But you have to think the coaches - right now - are terrified at the prospect of putting Sherrod in at LT when Clifton goes out.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
              But you have to think the coaches - right now - are terrified at the prospect of putting Sherrod in at LT when Clifton goes out.
              I think Sherrod has looked good. No problem at LT.

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              • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                I think Sherrod has looked good. No problem at LT.
                I thought he looked OK. I'm still trying to figure out why they're giving so much time to Lang out there.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  I thought he looked OK. I'm still trying to figure out why they're giving so much time to Lang out there.
                  there hoping Newhouse can backup Bulaga at RT

                  there hoping Sherrod can back up Cliffy and Lang at LG and LT so they can keep Newhouse on the right side, McDonald is backing up both C and RG, another poster from another site said it best, we have 4 locks and 4 backups, one has to win the LG job and the other 3 back up all 5 spots on the game day 45, they are

                  Clifton------- Lang/Sherrod-- Wells------Sitton------ Bulaga
                  Sherrod/Lang-- Lang/Sherrod-McDonald-McDonald- Newhouse

                  I think those are the top 8 players and will be the game day actives.

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                  • Chris Campbell has had knee surgery. Will be about another 2 weeks. http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.co...wo-more-weeks/
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • Larry McCarren's Training Camp Report 8/17

                      With preseason game#2 fast approaching, there was a lot more work off "cards" during today's practice. (The scout or "look" team runs Cardinal offense or defense and knows how to line up because it's drawn on cards. A picture is worth a thousand words in the NFL.) That changes the practice dynamic. When the Packer offense is working against the look team, it's "supposed" to do well, and vice versa. That's why a couple of plays were especially impressive. On one, Matt Flynn hit D.J. Williams over the middle during a blitz drill and on the other, it was Flynn to a leaping Randall Cobb in the move-the-ball period that ended practice. Both would have been big plays and both came during the defense's drill, when the defense is supposed to win. Flynn admitted afterwards that there's an extra charge in beating the #1 defense and why not. It's a competitive business.

                      Meanwhile, back in the trenches, there was some serious contact in one on one between the tackles and the outside linebackers. It's run blocking vs. run defense, and since there's no running back for the linebacker to worry about, it's a drill the defense should win. (Many times the "movement" in a block occurs when the defender tries to disengage the blocker and make the tackle.) Regardless, both T.J Lang (he's playing tackle too) and Bryan Bulaga had fine individual reps. I asked Lang about the defensive slant to the drill and he said no big deal, it's more about attitude anyway. As in who wants to hit who. It's about as close to the old "nutcracker" as they come in today's game. Speaking of which, the game has gotten bigger, faster, stronger and SMARTER. Can you believe we used to start practice with up-downs or grass drills and do them to the brink of total exhaustion? I can't. Think about it. Let's get you totally worn out and then and only then we will work on your football skills. Doesn't make sense but we thought it was normal.

                      I digress, back to practice. Tramon Williams had an active day. The corner knocked down three passes and one of them should have been an interception. While we're in that neighborhood, Tori Gurley and Diondre Borel both had bad drops, of the right-in-and-out-of the-hands variety, and that's not good for young wide receivers trying to make this roster. Dimitri Nance looked good bouncing a run outside. He's probably #4 in the running back pecking order, but he's had his share of good runs this camp. His cause would be helped if he showed the same kind of burst in games that he displays in practice.

                      One on one pass block / rush is somewhat of a right of passage for the guys up front and a couple of the young O-linemen showed some improvement today. Nick McDonald, who's been the backup center, finally looked strong and had a couple of solid reps. 6th Round draft choice Caleb Schlauderaff, who's been lousy at 1 on 1, had his best block of camp and it came against a veteran in C.J. Wilson. Marshall Newhouse, who hasn't looked near as good at right tackle as he has at left, looked good today. Evan Dietrich-Smith also stopped B.J. Raji c old during today's session.

                      Injury wise, Mike Neal dodged a bullet and there's no structural damage to his knee. The team says he's day-to-day.

                      And finally, a note to potential railbirds. Tomorrow's practice is scheduled for 11 AM, no pads.

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                      • Nice...thanks Vince.
                        C.H.U.D.

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                        • Like many fans, I always take a shine to certain players for no apparent reason. One of those players, for me, is Marshall Newhouse. But then again I liked "orange" Junius Coston, too.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • OK, so if Lang has at least temporarily ascended to No.1 LG (both JSO, GBPG and Harv are reporting this), does anyone have a report where he spent his time with the second team? According to a report I heard on the radio (maybe Wilde?) Lang has been moved back to RT to help backup Bulaga since Newhouse struggled.

                            Anyone else see or hear this?
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • 6th Round draft choice Caleb Schlauderaff, who's been lousy at 1 on 1, had his best block of camp and it came against a veteran in C.J. Wilson.
                              Given the camp Wilson is having, that's not much of a recommendation for Schlauderaff.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • IMO Lang should start. Sherrod should back up Cliffy with the goal being the #1 left tackle next season. Newhouse should stay on the left side.

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