Defensive line depth

[VermontPackFan]

Howard made that bar irrelevant.

Boy thats a pretty picture, I may keep it as my screen saver for awhile...

[pbmax]

The ugly truth is that Cullen Jenkins is actually a me-first kinda guy who, when his contract year rolled around, abandoned the team concept that DEs in the Capers defense are supposed to embrace and focused only on building the kind of stats he thought would get him a lucrative contract. His abilities may be superior to any other lineman on the team (minus Raji and Neal) but his attitude doesn't make him a good fit for Capers's scheme. So he takes his 7-10 sacks and shirked containment responsibilities on the road. Big deal.

Ok, I am exaggerating a little to make my point. I do not doubt that the coaching staff was probably complicit in this when they sold Jenkins on the scheme in the first place. They convinced him that he wouldn't have to become the dumb mule who allows the linebackers to shine.

Do we have a source on this story? Because I think Justin made a similar argument and outside of Raji saying he and Jenkins didn't watch tape and prepare together, I haven't seen any other indicator this was the story. Not saying you are wrong, but perhaps I simply missed it .

[pbmax]

He had a couple of really nice rushes playing the nose in the nickel in the game. He also had another pressure as a DE and he stuffed a run on the goalline. He made his presence felt. I thought he looked better.

Harv if you saw it I will stand aside on this point, but the plays where I saw him (all at RDE) he was in Neutral.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I can't say I watched every one of his plays, but he stood out to me for good reasons. He made his presence felt. Once I saw him making plays, I started watching him more. He has some pass rush to him. I almost thought he was better pass rushing from the inside. Maybe that will be his niche.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Coincidentally, there is an article about Wynn tonight on JSO.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/128432803.html

Wynn's roster spot not in jeopardy this time

Fast forward a year, and the third-year pro has a roster spot locked up...

Wynn has had some solid practices in training camp and became a starter in the nickel when Neal went down with a knee injury Aug. 16. Against the Cardinals last Friday, he didn't have a sack, but he was flashing moves he didn't have a year ago.

"Jarius played well," Trgovac said. "He had some good rushes that he was coming clean on. The ball was just out before he got there. He had a couple moves where he beat the guy with a move and was coming clean."

The 6-3, 285-pound Wynn can play end in the 3-4, although you wouldn't want him lining head up over the tackle as a Ryan Pickett, Howard Green or C.J. Wilson might. Wynn is more of an edge rusher who has been working like crazy to improve his pass rush ability up the middle.

When he and Raji line up in the nickel they can line up anywhere across the guard's outside shoulder to either side of the center's shoulders to just outside the tackle. Sometimes he's trying to eat up blockers to allow others to get free and sometimes it's his job to get into the backfield.

"We don't rush as much outside particularly in nickel," Trgovac said. "He's getting better at his inside rush. He has long arms so he has a good mixture of finesse moves and he can use power inside, too."

[pbmax]

Coincidentally, there is an article about Wynn tonight on JSO.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/128432803.html

Its a bit of a weird fit with Neal being out. In that article, Wynn talks about working with Chuck Smith, former Falcon, on his "three" which I assume is the 3 tech tackle. For Wynn, that would mean he anticipated (or was told) to work on his inside game. Haven't seen the interview so there might be more to it, but it sounds quite specific.

The problem with Neal out is that Wynn will also need to play some 5 tech, which is all run defense and occupying blockers, because I don't think they are moving Raji back to the 5.

Wrong article, its here: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/128425663.html

[hoosier]

Do we have a source on this story? Because I think Justin made a similar argument and outside of Raji saying he and Jenkins didn't watch tape and prepare together, I haven't seen any other indicator this was the story. Not saying you are wrong, but perhaps I simply missed it .

No real concrete source. I'm drawing on what I think was inuendo in one of his teammates' reported comments (might have been Raji), together with the fact that Cullen had to be sold on the scheme (or his role in it) during summer '09 and the fact that the Packers apparently didn't pursue him too hard during free agency. That's a lot of speculatin' on hypotheses on my part. I tried to soften my position in the second paragraph (exaggerating a little) without betraying my own intuitive sense that this is probably a big factor in how things went down this summer.

[Fritz]

Does Guy now become practice squad fodder? They can hold him out this game and play him in a very limited role in the next so other teams don't get to see him, then cut and re-sign him to the practice squad.

[MadScientist]

Does Guy now become practice squad fodder? They can hold him out this game and play him in a very limited role in the next so other teams don't get to see him, then cut and re-sign him to the practice squad.

If he passes his concussion test, otherwise they have to IR him or wave/injured and wait till 4 weeks past the settlement time.