Official "Jump to Conclusions Based on the First Preseason Game Thread"

[bobblehead]

You're not getting into the spirit of jumping to conclusions.

There wasn't anything you saw in the first preseason game that allows you to irresponsibly project the entirety of a player's season or career?

Ok, time to jump to conclusions:

I am smarter than TT cuz I would have cut Grant. He didn't impress me but Starks did. I would rather have resigned BJack to stay as the 3rd down back and dropped Grant.

TT can't draft CB's for shit. He should stick to UFA's and regular FA's. We have 3 studs and several duds....at least Bush can play ST's.

Time to give Lang the majority of snaps at LG. Sherrod is a left tackle. Not sure what Newhouse is, but having too many LT's is a great problem.

Flynn will be a very good starter in this league...better than Hasselbeck. I'll call him Pennington with an arm.

Quinn Johnson is done, but we might get a 7th for him from a team that likes that kind of FB.

We are going to have identity crisis as Tom Crabtree lines up at FB quite often.

[bobblehead]

I predict the packers will have Johnny Jolly change his name to Lawrence Guy, proceed to cut the real Lawrence Guy, and have Jolly take his spot. Wait is Guy white?

2 words....tanning bed.

[bobblehead]

Oh, and Quinn Johnson got blown up by a backup LB. He fucking sucks. He can't do anything. Can't catch, can't run, can't block on the move and he's not even good blocking straight ahead. Can't play ST's. He sucks. Just pure horse shit.

Can we call him "allen babre" curcuit 2011?

[bobblehead]

You would think Campbell's chances improved a bit. Was Newhouse's performance a result of a guy having trouble switching sides? Bulaga talked about how everything you do is reversed when you switch from LT to RT. If so, perhaps he just needs more reps there. If Bulaga were to be injured, I suppose moving Lang there would also be a possibility, although then you're getting into a musical chairs situation on the OL again.

I played OL on the left side. I always had trouble on the right. For some reason I was so much better at riding speed rushers up the field and driving them wide from the left.

[bobblehead]

OmiGod! I agree with Harlan here, that can't be right, is it? I think Lang and Sherrod are good ones. Lang is your starter and Sherrod can fill at two left OL spots. Both of these guys have really good footwork. In the first half, the Brown RDE tried one of those "banana" edge moves. Sherrod stayed cool and moved right with the guy. He made 3 excellent slide steps and then checked the DE on the backside of the QB. He's a kid, but he's got the makings of an good LT someday.

Lang is the better OG. He has a better grasp of the job. He favors the inside on pass pro and is pretty aggressive. That said, he gets to the second level quickly and goes right at the defenders. I think if he was healthy last year, he may have knocked Colledge out of the job then.

I like our chances with these two kids.

Yes, I'd be one to give the "continuity-teamwork" sermon, 'cause I believe it. Identify these two guy's jobs and stick them in some spots. Quit flippin' 'em around, dammit!

Agree 100%. I've been saying sherrod just looks like a left tackle. He moves with grace. Lang is nastier....a much better trait for a guard.

[Lurker64]

this is the jump to conclusions based on one preseason game thread...so on that i'll say the defense sucks and if it can't stop colt mccoy or seneca wallace they're not going to stop anyone.

Well, you have to jump to conclusions based on analysis of the actual evidence. So I will say that without Woodson, Williams, and Matthews, the defense isn't very promising.

[vince]

You would think Campbell's chances improved a bit. Was Newhouse's performance a result of a guy having trouble switching sides? Bulaga talked about how everything you do is reversed when you switch from LT to RT. If so, perhaps he just needs more reps there. If Bulaga were to be injured, I suppose moving Lang there would also be a possibility, although then you're getting into a musical chairs situation on the OL again.

I watched a good portion of the game again this morning. Newhouse gave up a sack and a pressure early on and then more or less settled in. The sack was pretty brutal, but could have been due to switching sides. He engaged the DE head on who promptly threw him aside on his way to the QB. It was in no way a speed move, but he could have got caught off balance due to switching sides. We'll see if he can adjust.

The second miscue he was responsible for was a mental mistake. He slid down to help the guard after a very quick 1/2 count, completely oblivious to the blitzer that came right off his back at just the moment he vacated his spot.

In fairness, Lang did pretty much the same thing on the other side on the fumble for a TD. Lang showed pretty good movement and aggressiveness though. Sherrod also had at least one missed assignment in pass protection when he failed to adjust to an inside stunt. so we'll see which of these guys can "clean that up" and how quickly.

[Lurker64]

In fairness, Lang did pretty much the same thing on the other side on the fumble for a TD. Lang showed pretty good movement and aggressiveness though. Sherrod also had at least one missed assignment in pass protection when he failed to adjust to an inside stunt. so we'll see which of these guys can "clean that up" and how quickly.

Wasn't the ultimate fault on the fumble play a blown assignment by D.J. Williams playing from the H-Back spot? It sure seemed like he went inside to try to block a guy who was already blocked, allowing the outside rusher to go untouched. I can't say I know the blocking responsibilities on this play, but I know that "blocking somebody who's already being blocked, and leaving somebody else unblocked" is generally not what you're supposed to do in passing situations.

[vince]

Wasn't the ultimate fault on the fumble play a blown assignment by D.J. Williams playing from the H-Back spot? It sure seemed like he went inside to try to block a guy who was already blocked, allowing the outside rusher to go untouched. I can't say I know the blocking responsibilities on this play, but I know that "blocking somebody who's already being blocked, and leaving somebody else unblocked" is generally not what you're supposed to do in passing situations.

Yeah that's possible, but Lang did the same thing you mentioned about Williams. It seems to me that Packer linemen often make on-the-fly adjustments to blitzes and stunts rather than locking onto the guy across from them and going wherever they go. The 5-tech pinched down into Sherrod and Lang followed him. If Lang had seen him (he didn't), it looked to me like he'd have stopped helping down on the guy that was engaged directly with Sherrod head up and picked up the blitzer who had a free lane around the edge. It's not as if the blitzer came from way outside. It was a bit of a delay by the LB, but I've seen Bulaga make that adjustment many times.

In any event, I'll jump away and say that Lang will adjust and Sherrod will back up the left side while Newhouse will back-up at RT. McDonald and EDS will back-up the interior. Campbell, Schlauderaff and maybe Dominguez (or Lattimore) to the PS, along with Borel, Westin, So'oto, Elmore and Gordy.

[Lurker64]

In any event, I'll jump away and say that Lang will adjust and Sherrod will back up the left side while Newhouse will back-up at RT. McDonald and EDS will back-up the interior. Campbell, Schlauderaff and maybe Dominguez (or Lattimore) to the PS, along with Borel, Westin, So'oto, Elmore and Gordy.

I think Torey Gurley is worth keeping around on the Practice Squad, he's got something that none of our WRs have: he's 6'4 1/8". He's green and he doesn't really know what he's doing, but he's got the tools, and he's an insurance policy in case Nelson leaves, since I think McCarthy has always wanted a tall, fast WR. I'm not sure someone doesn't claim Chastin West,so that saves us from three WRs on the PS. When it comes to OLBs on the PS, I think So'oto and Lattimore have more promise than Elmore. If I'm jumping to conclusions after one game, I don't think Elmore really has a future in the NFL. It's not that he doesn't have skills, it's that he's not tough enough.

Gordy, I think, has an outside shot to make the roster. Depending on how many DBs you keep, and you usually keep a good number because these guys are useful on STs. Six CBs is plausible, and Williams, Woodson, Shields, and House are guaranteed a spot, Bush almost certainly takes up a spot because of his ST play, so there's a #6 CB spot available for Lee or Gordy (or Ross) if they can earn it.

[Bossman641]

Colt McCoy will challenge for Offensive Player of the Year.

[mraynrand]

Levine will make the squad, be on the field at least by game 2, and will make the pro bowl in year 3. Liked the kid's instincts and closing speed.

[ThunderDan]

Wasn't the ultimate fault on the fumble play a blown assignment by D.J. Williams playing from the H-Back spot? It sure seemed like he went inside to try to block a guy who was already blocked, allowing the outside rusher to go untouched. I can't say I know the blocking responsibilities on this play, but I know that "blocking somebody who's already being blocked, and leaving somebody else unblocked" is generally not what you're supposed to do in passing situations.

It was definitely on DJ WIlliams. The Packers always pick up blitzers inside to out. Wells, Lang, Sherrod picked up the inside right blitzers. To me it looked like Willams thought Lang was going to lose his battle and so he stepped up to seal the inside. Unfortunately a LB came with an outside blitz just as DJ moved up and left Harrell's blindside unprotected.

[smuggler]

Haha, that'd be great, but we have nowhere to put him!

[imscott72]

I think Sherrod is going to be good, but I'm a bit nervous leaving Rodgers' blind side protected by a rookie..There are some scary pass rushers in this division for him to contend with his first NFL season.