ROSTER BREAKDOWN

[3irty1]

There are some guys with talent that are expendable IMO due to young talent, but it's hard for me to envision any of them getting traded at this point in the game. I think the thing to do would be to keep West and go with 8 o-linemen and Schlauderaff, Campbell and Dominguez on the PS. That or Crabtree could be gone. I haven't paid attention to West's special teams play and he'll have to show promise there to stick. He's been making plays all camp at receiver though - not just in the last game.

With no trades, here would be my 53.

QB: Rodgers, Flynn, Harrell
RB: Grant, Starks, Green, Kuhn
TE: Finley, Quarless, Williams, Taylor, Crabtree
WR: Jennings, Driver, Cobb, Nelson, West, Jones
OL: Clifton, Lang, Wells, Sitton, Bulaga, Sherrod, McDonald, Newhouse
DL: Raji, Pickett, Neal, Green, Wilson, Wynn
OLB: Matthews, Zombo, Walden, Jones
ILB: Hawk, Bishop, Smith, Francois
CB: Williams, Shields, Woodson, House, Gordy, Bush
S: Collins, Burnett, Peprah, Levine
ST: Crosby, Masthay, Goode

PS: Schlauderaff, Campbell, Dominguez, Borel, So'oto, Pnut Joseph, Guy, Hoeze

I think it's two of Crabtree, Dietrich-Smith, Johnson, West. My picks are Crabtree and West.
I wouldn't look forward to having Gordy on the field, but he is playing aggressive and looks like he wants it more than Lee.

I pretty well agree with all of that. I do think that they could consider Brad Jones an ILB making way for So'oto instead of Francois. I have a feeling that even Walden would move inside before they'd play Francois there. I would also think long and hard about that last corner spot. That spot you have going to Gordy is going to a special teams gunner/protection specialist for the punting teams. Lee is better at that. If MD Jennings is going to get a roster spot, that's the spot he'll take it from. Johnson vs Crabtree is a tough call for me.

[sheepshead]

From what I was hearing on the Green Bay stations is that Lee is doing the coverage perfectly in practice, but not carrying it over into the game. So far his play (not counting his admirable fill-in performance in SB45) hasn't demonstrated being him kept for the finalroster. Crabtree somehow has to find his way on the roster because he is the best BLOCKING TE and semi-servicable receiver. Finley is a stud but can't block that well. I concur with Vince's final 53.

WR is going to be one helluva tough final cutdown. Cobb had an awesome chance at a punt runback last night but ran before he caught the ball. West hopefully will get some touches vs. Indy on ST.

I love Johnson at FB, but I can't see him making the squad especially if Green, Starks, Kuhn and Grant are all healthy.

I dont know if you meant this but I dont think Finley is a liability as a blocker.

[Deputy Nutz]

Nice post and all that is really nice about the accolades and everything, but it's not my point. I am a student of human behavior and he does not exhibit the kind of human behavior that TT wants anywhere near his team. Suh is quickly becoming a me-first player who now thinks he is above the refs. His attitude would KILL the atmosphere in the locker room that the Packers have worked SO hard to achieve. That is more of an effect than one guy getting accolades in a season. At GB, your draft status means nothing and I don't think Mr. #1 pick could handle that. He said in a NATIONAL interview that he won't change. I hope he does, but for this year he has a huge bullseye on his ass after what he said about the refs. $20K is NOTHING that will make him want to play within the rules and when he did this to Delhomme was it preseason? I guess at this point we'll have to agree to disagree, but I say he's lost control so we'll have to watch and see how many yards his invincibility costs the Lions. Hope it comes at critical points in games, because the rest of the team is getting good, but how often can they give up 15 yards and an automatic first down? And how do you think the league is going to think about some second year DE injuring one of its star quarterbacks?

First, he is a defensive tackle, and secondly if you think Suh is going to implode this season you know just as much about human behavior as you do football.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

First, he is a defensive tackle, and secondly if you think Suh is going to implode this season you know just as much about human behavior as you do football.

I think Suh is the man too and my vote for DPOY, but your talking as if he were your kid. Did Suh safe your life or something?

[Brandon494]

FYI Sam Bradford was the #1 overall pick.

[Yoop]

FYI Sam Bradford was the #1 overall pick.

I was wondering if anyone would point that incidental out, haha, Suh will be fined till he cleans his act up, he is a top talent, dont even mention Jolly in the same breath, it's not even close, Suh plays with reckless abandon, once he gets that dialed back a bit, he will be fine and a perinial pro bowler.

[cheesner]

Trades rarely happen within the same division except for McNabb.

Yes. Trading Suh for Quinn, a HOF caliber DT for a 3rd string FB (who will be cut anyway), the only hangup on that going through is that we won't trade within our division.

[Smidgeon]

I think Suh is the man too and my vote for DPOY, but your talking as if he were your kid. Did Suh safe your life or something?

I think the DPOY is determined after the season is played, not before...

[mraynrand]

First, he is a defensive tackle, and secondly if you think Suh is going to implode this season you know just as much about human behavior as you do football.

I think you need to conduct a Gallup poll of GMs to see how many would take Suh for Flynn, and how many think Suh will implode. Also, please present Gallup poll statistics for verification.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I think the DPOY is determined after the season is played, not before...

Oh really I thought they were determined before the season. Thats why I thought we always start these prediction threads b/c we have the power to determine stuff before the season starts. See and I was going to call Rodgers and tell him he was going to win MVP. Dam.

[Zool]

In honor of possibly the dumbest thread argument here in a long time. Yes of course the Packers would trade almost anyone on the roster for Suh straight up. The real troll here is JH for making a ridiculously over the top statement like that in the first place.

[mraynrand]

What this thread lacks in intelligent thought, it makes up for in biting, merciless sarcasm.

[MJZiggy]

First, he is a defensive tackle, and secondly if you think Suh is going to implode this season you know just as much about human behavior as you do football.

When did I say this season? Doesn't matter when he implodes, I don't want him around my boys when he does and trading for him puts him squarely in the locker room with my boys beyond this season. Maybe he fixes himself, maybe he implodes, but he cannot keep tackling QBs by the head and expect to hang around in this league. In the league's eyes A Manning > A Suh. He's said he's not going to change so he's made it them vs. him. How many 15-yard penalties that give the other team a first down (on third down?) does it take to offset a sack?

[Deputy Nutz]

Fuck! stop being so damn ignorant! He is going to be a pro bowler for the next ten years. But "your boys' are not going to have to worry about being teammates with him, they are going to have to worry about keeping him off Rodgers for two games a year.

"Your boys", fuck that is funny. How many of those Packers you push through your birth hole?

[MJZiggy]

Fuck! stop being so damn ignorant! He is going to be a pro bowler for the next ten years. But "your boys' are not going to have to worry about being teammates with him, they are going to have to worry about keeping him off Rodgers for two games a year.

"Your boys", fuck that is funny. How many of those Packers you push through your birth hole?

How many of them did you root for last season?