"Favre and Gado" OR "Rodgers and Shawn Alexan

[superfan]

I'm not ready to hand the keys to the franchise over to Rodgers yet. Last night was very encouraging -- he looked better than any other time I've seen him play. But it's still too early to put him out there and expect him to win games on a consistent basis.

[RashanGary]

YOu don't have to hand it over to just Rodgers. You can hand it over to Tiki and Aaron for Favres salary

[woodbuck27]

Tennessee shit on McNair like they had all eaten bad sushi. McNair was as expensive as he was this year because he restructured for the good of the team with the promise that his payday would come later. It's not his fault the team doesn't know how to add and dumped an excellent player who did what was necessary for the good of the team because it was more convenient for them. I hope they end up 32nd in the league in EVERY quarterback statistic there is this year. I would be sorely disappointed in the Green Bay organization if they tried to pull that kind of crap on Brett Favre. No matter how much you pay him, he is still our best chance to win and that is the guy you play. The one that gives you your best chance to win. Give the guy an o-line and you'll see he is as good as he ever was.

DAM straight MJ.

I'm proud of you Packer fan.

GO PACKERS. HOLD ONTO THE FAITH !!

[BF4MVP]

McNair is a HOF QB

Nah

[the_idle_threat]

Running Back is a young man's position. No point in signing a FA---especially Tiki Barber who is already talking about retirement and his career after football---if you can get a young guy in the draft who can carry the team for a number of years.

[prsnfoto]

Re: Favre

[quote="Packnut"]

the thing about favre not being worth his salary. sure its high for what he's done lately, but you're paying him for what he's done in the pass.

and that doesn't mean we are paying him because he use to be good

favre got some big contracts in his time, but he really never saw any of that huge money. he kept restructuring his contract to help the team and pushing the big cap hit further and further away. well its finally that time where the team has cap room so favre doesn't have to take one for the team and he can get some of that money he was due a decade ago when he was in his prime

Excellent point about all the times Favre restructered his contract for the good of the team. He NEVER held the Packers hostage or became upset when lesser achieving QB's got more money than he did.

Exactly Favre is not the problem now or then.
If you want to save cap money KGB is the biggest waste of space on the team, Thanks Shermy KGB Hidious Cunt,Joe Johnson 80 million in cap money=no Wahle,Rivera.

[MadtownPacker]

Re: Favre

If you want to save cap money KGB is the biggest waste of space on the team.

Agreed! He is a one trick pony and disappears during crucial stretches of the game. I like the guy dont get me wrong, but Sherm should have let philly have him when they wanted him.

[Bretsky]

YOu don't have to hand it over to just Rodgers. You can hand it over to Tiki and Aaron for Favres salary

What is the purpose of pinning this all on Favre ? As I already noted if TT wouldn't be sitting on dead money we could have had Edgerrin James and Brett Favre this year and then when Favre retires stock up on defense.

This thread seems to have the goal of reliving the Favre criticism/he's overpaid for what he brings ....yadayadayada bla bla bla that ....and that's not exciting to anyone.

As I already noted Edgerrin James Cap Figure is less than what we have available on the cap right now so why don't you reroute your darts at TT and question why we are not spending all our money when we seem to have weaknesses at RB ?

[MJZiggy]

Re: Favre

If you want to save cap money KGB is the biggest waste of space on the team.

Agreed! He is a one trick pony and disappears during crucial stretches of the game. I like the guy dont get me wrong, but Sherm should have let philly have him when they wanted him.

Who were you going to replace him with?

[Creepy]

Number 1 Fvare has been paid high for a long time. Anybody who doesn't think that he didn't get a bigger bonus each time he restructured his contract . Brett has made his money and currently gets a nice salary. Whether he retires or not is Bretts decision, as for his pay GB may start looking at cutting it, if it effects the cap negatively.

You can't compare Favre to McNair as McNair had a 50M roster bonus due this year. That meant that the Titans would ahve to retructure or sig a whole new contract. The Titans felt that a new 3/4 year contract with a big bonus would not help them. They did not see McNair staying any longer that 1/2 years. So they went for Young, who they could sign for big money and a longer contract.

GB willno tbe giving Fvare another muti year contract or big bonus to retructure. Favre is in his last year/years and GB need not break the bank on a player who is not listed for the future.

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the problem with kgb is that , well one, he was overpaid. and two, his contact was backloaded, meaning either he was to get a new deal when his salary got too high, or he should have been cut.

well we're at the point when KGB should get a new deal or be cut. the problem is, he's not worth the huge new deal. his new deal would have to have a pretty big bonus to offset some of the salary he'll lose. and on the other side, we can't cut him, even though he's a "one trick poney", he's the only thing that we have thats close to a pass rushing d-lineman

so we're screwed

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Favre

Who were you going to replace him with?

He was about the only guy giving a consistent pass rush against San Diego. He had a sack and two other pressures in a little over a quarter of action on Saturday night.

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Number 1 Fvare has been paid high for a long time. Anybody who doesn't think that he didn't get a bigger bonus each time he restructured his contract . Brett has made his money and currently gets a nice salary. Whether he retires or not is Bretts decision, as for his pay GB may start looking at cutting it, if it effects the cap negatively.


You can't compare Favre to McNair as McNair had a 50M roster bonus due this year. That meant that the Titans would ahve to retructure or sig a whole new contract. The Titans felt that a new 3/4 year contract with a big bonus would not help them. They did not see McNair staying any longer that 1/2 years. So they went for Young, who they could sign for big money and a longer contract.

GB willno tbe giving Fvare another muti year contract or big bonus to retructure. Favre is in his last year/years and GB need not break the bank on a player who is not listed for the future.

not quite true. favre has gotten the signing bonus but it didn't come close to making up for what his salary would have been over the period of the original deal

numbers to come, crunching in progress

[LaFours]

As we talk through the idea of adding a FA RB this offseason along with questioning why se did not go after someone like Edgerrin this past offseason I think it is important to remember that whatever money is invested in the backfield is ultimately being safeguarded by our OL (both QB's & RB's). Let's face it, we still have question marks surrounding our Offensive line play and I'm sure TT was hesitant to spend big money on a FA RB this past offseason knowing that there are still ?'s surrounding the strength of the OL. I think going after a big time RB in FA next year might be a classic example of putting the "cart in front of the horse." Until we get our OL play solidifed it doesn't make sense to spend big money on our backfield because of the greater probability of your investment getting pummeled.

[RashanGary]

I'm pretty excited for the next 2-7 years. I'm just not too excited about Favre's last 1 or 2. Next year might be decent but I don't forsee a contender. Maybe Thompson sells out on his plan and buys some FA's next year to make a one time shot but I hope he doesn't. I hope he stays patient and builds a solid roster the slow, sure way and when you're already loaded and still have cap space because you have so many team friendly contracts then you take a stab like Seattle this year. They had a great roster and were well below the cap. Now they take a stab at great players but they already had a great team. It's all a timing thing. Sherman f'd up Favres twilight and I'm just as happy to move forward.

Fans always see that hope. Think about it though. Had the Packers added big name guys like Seattle did, do you really think we'd be at their level? Sandiego's? Pittsburg? Those teams are tough, physical football teams who from top to bottom, kick the Packers ass. I just don't think you can mend what we have in one off season. I'm glad Thompson believes he can draft well becasue I think that is the door to winning. I think will open in time, untill then, I'm just patient. I think this is Favres last year. I would like to see him get that record and go out iwth a nice season. The best would be if Rodgers can step in at 23 and play as good as Brett did at 37. I don't think he'll have to play like Brett at 26 but as long as he can play equal to an aging vet, I'll be happy because we can afford Hawk and Rodgers for the price of Favre.

Anyone who thinks the Packers are winning now are laughable. Anyone who thinks they are a couple pieces away from a SB are also laughable. The Packers have 3-6 weak links and a young roster. They are at best a marginal playoff team in the short term. I just want to see it built right from the ground up and Favre sticking around too much longer starts to effect our real window.