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  • #76
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    And according to the Milwaukee Journal, from which I think Joe's article quotes or reproduces, it did NOT involve spinal stenosis. He also did not have a disc problem.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...g+sharpe&hl=en
    Well if he'd had his head screwed on straight. Ok, don't bother. I'm going to bed.
    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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    • #77
      Any chance this would work for Nick?

      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #78
        Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
        Well if he'd had his head screwed on straight. Ok, don't bother. I'm going to bed.
        As more of this comes back to me, I think teams were scared off in part by the uniqueness of the injury. As the article states, it was two vertebrae that don't commonly get injured in the way he injured them.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #79
          Really devastating news for Collins. He is one of my favorite Packers and it's amazing to see how much ground he can cover while the ball is in the air. I'd hate for this to be career-ending, we certainly are overdue for some good luck. Here's to a quick recovery.
          Go PACK

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          • #80
            Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
            But why does it have to happen to the really good ones?
            Because the really good ones are good enough to be in the action.
            2025 Ratpickers champion.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
              (only kidding, Skinbasket, I'm sure you know what a high risk pool is all about.)
              Yeah, I know, I know. It's only for poor people who can't actually afford it. Having people who could pay the "premiums" would defeat the point of government subsidy - which, as you say, is what it's "all about."
              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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              • #82
                This is bad news and all, but some of you folks are acting like this was Reggie White, when he was still alive.
                "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
                  This is bad news and all, but some of you folks are acting like this was Reggie White, when he was still alive.

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                  • #84
                    Yea losing a top 3 FS for the year and maybe his career is no big deal. It's not like we have been struggling in pass defense this season or anything.

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                    • #85
                      Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                      • #86
                        Love Nick Collins and hope for the best for him and his family. Obviously this doesn't help the team. The question I have is, "How much will it hurt the team?"

                        The Packers have obviously struggled to get offenses off the field and they've been lit up against the pass with Collins. By no means am I saying Collins is to blame although he hasn't played up to his capabilities this year. I'm of the opinion that they won't be much worse as the year progresses and should get better (again, not because of the loss of Collins obviously). Burnett will probably play more deep middle than previous, which I don't think is a bad thing. He can make plays back there.

                        Collins has been described as the quarterback of the secondary, so there could be some adjustment in getting people in the right spots and coverages, but I don't think that will be a big ongoing issue personally. Darren Perry will have his guys coached up and knowing what's going on back there. By all accounts, both Burnett and Peprah are smart guys.

                        Peprah isn't a bad safety, although I think he's a bit of a liability covering deep. He plays under control and guys go over the middle at their own risk when he's in there. He fills very well against the run and can play in the box. Doc Jennings may get some looks as the year goes on. I'm not sure how ready he is, but he seems to have some playmaking ability. Bush has improved this year for sure, but I'd still rather see what the Doc can do before moving Bush back there.

                        The Packers need to get home with more pressure to help the secondary. The Bears have not been good on the o-line thus far and have 2 starters probably out this week. This is the week for Matthews, Raji, Wynn, Walden, Bishop, Wilson to get home. And they have to shadow the hell out of Forte, who's been the Bears biggest and pretty much only weapon.

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                        • #87
                          For Charlie:

                          “To each there comes in their lifetime a special moment when they are figuratively tapped on the shoulder and offered the chance to do a very special thing, unique to them and fitted to their talents. What a tragedy if that moment finds them unprepared or unqualified for that which could have been their finest hour.”
                          ― Winston S. Churchill
                          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                          • #88
                            According to his agent (the article linked by Partial), Nick is up and around without any problem or pain.
                            He can run around and do whatever he wants to do right now.
                            Hopefully this means the possibility of long term effects to his health are low. You have to think the doctors discovered a pre-existing condition, or something ‘moved’ that shouldn’t have. He was shut down quickly, with very little information given. Strange - tells me they're not sure what they've found?
                            --
                            Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                              Yea losing a top 3 FS for the year and maybe his career is no big deal. It's not like we have been struggling in pass defense this season or anything.
                              Maybe he's played like a top 3 FS at times. Other times, not so much, including so far this season. Not sure how you think you're bolstering your argument by pointing out how absolutely dreadful our passing defense has been with Collins in there, but hey, I'm not black so I'll probably never understand.

                              I think Collins' worth is somewhat overestimated by some is all. Like I said, he's no Reggie White. Hell, he's not even Leroy Butler.
                              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                              • #90
                                It's a big loss. Can it be overcome? I guess. But the injuries are starting to add up again: Neal, Collins, Williams (hopefully back this week). I doubt we'll win the Super Bowl with another rash of injuries like last year.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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