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  • #91
    Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
    Maybe he's played like a top 3 FS at times. Other times, not so much, including so far this season. Not sure how you think you're bolstering your argument by pointing out how absolutely dreadful our passing defense has been with Collins in there, but hey, I'm not black so I'll probably never understand.

    I think Collins' worth is somewhat overestimated by some is all. Like I said, he's no Reggie White. Hell, he's not even Leroy Butler.
    I am pretty sure he is LeRoy Butler. Less sacks, more speed and coverage of field. And less sacks might have to do mostly with assignment. McCarthy claimed he is on his way to a HoF career. That's a pretty close matchup between the two.

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    • #92
      Losing Collins is a big deal for the team. Hopefully, MM, TT, and Capers still have some magic left from last year and can find those players who are ready to step up.

      Collins' injury reminds of the Celtics guard Marquis Daniels who jammed his head into another player's chest and was lost for the season.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Kiwon View Post
        ....Celtics guard Marquis Daniels who jammed his head into another player's chest and was lost for the season.
        Did he at least make the tackle?
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        • #94
          Don't sit on peoples head; it's career threatening!

          Man, it's doesn't help joking about Nick Collins' injury; it's a big blow. I wish Collins the best.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by mmmdk View Post
            I wish Collins the best.
            I wish Reggie was around to tell him to pray to Jesus he doesn't die and get back on the field like a real man.
            "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Kiwon View Post
              Losing Collins is a big deal for the team. Hopefully, MM, TT, and Capers still have some magic left from last year and can find those players who are ready to step up.

              Collins' injury reminds of the Celtics guard Marquis Daniels who jammed his head into another player's chest and was lost for the season.
              Did he ever play again? I realize basketball isn't football but I was just wondering...

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              • #97
                Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
                Maybe he's played like a top 3 FS at times. Other times, not so much, including so far this season. Not sure how you think you're bolstering your argument by pointing out how absolutely dreadful our passing defense has been with Collins in there, but hey, I'm not black so I'll probably never understand.

                I think Collins' worth is somewhat overestimated by some is all. Like I said, he's no Reggie White. Hell, he's not even Leroy Butler.
                So your saying if we lost Clay Matthews for the season it wouldn't really matter because our pass rush has sucked after two games.

                I don't know know what games you have been watching but the past three season Collins has had 17 INTs which is 2nd among FS only behind Ed Reed. Besides Reed there is no other FS in the league I would take over Collins. I think your underestimating our good the guy really is.

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                • #98
                  i wonder if he just shattered or crushed a vertebrae. it was so ugly. his neck got compacted then slammed hard to the left

                  with the way his head snapped he's lucky he didn't sever his spinal cord

                  if he does make it back next year that's gonna be something he'll never get out of his mind. he did absolutely nothing wrong, it was just a strange freak play that could happen to anyone at anytime, and it almost made him hadi-capable

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by sheepshead View Post
                    For Charlie:

                    “To each there comes in their lifetime a special moment when they are figuratively tapped on the shoulder and offered the chance to do a very special thing, unique to them and fitted to their talents. What a tragedy if that moment finds them unprepared or unqualified for that which could have been their finest hour.”
                    ― Winston S. Churchill
                    I think Charlie's going to be literally tapped on the shoulder. "Uh, Charlie, you're in."
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                    • Originally posted by red View Post
                      i wonder if he just shattered or crushed a vertebrae. it was so ugly. his neck got compacted then slammed hard to the left

                      with the way his head snapped he's lucky he didn't sever his spinal cord

                      if he does make it back next year that's gonna be something he'll never get out of his mind. he did absolutely nothing wrong, it was just a strange freak play that could happen to anyone at anytime, and it almost made him hadi-capable
                      I didn't see it. I just saw him face down on the turf. I just hope he's ok.
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                      • Did anyone else catch the passing comment where someone said the reason they were shutting him down might not have even been caused by this particular hit but that they found something else when they went in there to look? It wasn't directly said that way, but when I heard it/read it, it seemed like the implication was there.
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                        • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          So your saying if we lost Clay Matthews for the season it wouldn't really matter because our pass rush has sucked after two games.

                          I don't know know what games you have been watching but the past three season Collins has had 17 INTs which is 2nd among FS only behind Ed Reed. Besides Reed there is no other FS in the league I would take over Collins. I think your underestimating our good the guy really is.
                          That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Collins in particular has been out of position and misreading responsibilities this season - those are the games I've been watching. I'm not discounting the good he's done previously. I'm being realistic about the effect this has on our defense - now, which I think will be looked back upon as marginal, except by those who will look to blame any failing of our defense, particularly our passing defense, going forward as a result of Collins absence. Our pass defense has been shit with him in there and he wasn't exactly blowing up running plays. Peprah can catch the occasional errant pass almost as well I suspect. I just hope he's better at maintaining his assignments than Collins had been this season.
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                          • Originally posted by red View Post
                            i wonder if he just shattered or crushed a vertebrae. it was so ugly. his neck got compacted then slammed hard to the left

                            with the way his head snapped he's lucky he didn't sever his spinal cord

                            if he does make it back next year that's gonna be something he'll never get out of his mind. he did absolutely nothing wrong, it was just a strange freak play that could happen to anyone at anytime, and it almost made him hadi-capable

                            they said nothing was broken.

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                            • Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                              Did anyone else catch the passing comment where someone said the reason they were shutting him down might not have even been caused by this particular hit but that they found something else when they went in there to look? It wasn't directly said that way, but when I heard it/read it, it seemed like the implication was there.
                              Have a link to that quote, or maybe the site it was on?
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                              • Maybe this:

                                http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/130143133.html

                                Collins' agent, Alan Herman, said specifics of the injury aren't known, but it appears to be disc-related. He said too much is unknown to even confirm that, although he stated categorically Collins did not have a spinal cord injury or a broken neck.

                                Herman said he planned to bring Collins to New York to see a spinal specialist, who will determine the best course of action. Nobody was hinting that the injury could be career-ending, but that possibility always exists with something as delicate as a neck injury.

                                "We don't know if it's an old injury or a new one," Herman said. "A lot of times a player is injured and it's disguised until he suffers another one. Did he have an injury that was exacerbated? We'll find that out."

                                Herman said he was certain the injury was not spinal stenosis, an abnormal narrowing of the spinal column. Former Packers Terrence Murphy and Tim Lewis were both forced to retire in the prime of their careers because of the condition.
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                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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