A Hater's Take Part 4

[bobblehead]

You want to see this defense get better, then the Packers need to get pressure on the QB. It doesn't come from scheme, it comes from beating the guy across from you and the Packers have not done this on a consistent enough basis to improve their defense and stop opposing offenses.

I agree 100%. We actually feel the effect of losing Jenkins. I personally wasn't crazy about the contract they gave to Hawk. I think he is an average starter. He certainly isn't much better than Bishop, yet he got much more money.

[SkinBasket]

God, you people really do inflate the ability and value of safeties around here. As far as I can see, our defense is playing just about exactly the same without him as it was with him. Yeah, maybe one of the long completions doesn't happen this last week with Collins in there. Maybe. But you homos are romanticizing his ability and effect on our defense, knowing there's no way to prove the negative that the defense would be much better with him in there. Because he's not. Because he's got a soft noggin. Deal with it.

[Deputy Nutz]

Collins has a huge impact on this defense. I understand that the Packers are 4-0 and everything in the world is right for Packer fan, but a less than stellar defense to begin with now has one of their best players out for the season. That is fact, it is also a true statement that the Packers defense is better with Nick Collins out on the field. Why is that so hard for you to figure out?

[vince]

a less than stellar defense to begin with now has one of their best players out for the season. That is fact, it is also a true statement that the Packers defense is better with Nick Collins out on the field. Why is that so hard for you to figure out?

It's not. Most people would agree with that. I certainly would, but that's not the original statement you made.

The loss of Nick Collins is proving to be costly, more costly than any injury that was suffered last season to the Packers.

[Smeefers]

Mah. Nevermind.

[Deputy Nutz]

It's not. Most people would agree with that. I certainly would, but that's not the original statement you made.

I am not backing away from my comments. Nick Collins is a dynamic presence on the football field, he is the QB of the secondary you want to count 4-0 as an entire season go a head you have earned it.

[Deputy Nutz]

Mah. Nevermind.

Totally unacceptable, either say something our don't even bother.

[mission]

I don't think Burnett has been up to Collins normal level. I also don't think Peprah has played as well as last year, and I don't think you can assume he will.

Maybe so, but it's still arguable. He's given up a couple plays but he's forced or recovered more turnovers and has made quite an impression this year with his tackling. I agree I'd take Collins over Burnett if I could have only one, but Burnett has been one of the few pleasant surprises on defense imo.

[Zool]

It sure seemed like Burnett and Collins were getting beat deep as often as Burnett and Peprah are now. Maybe we need to get one of the safeties a mandate that they must be in behind everyone else on the field at all times. Stop biting on the GD play fakes.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers defense has had problems since the start of the season defending the pass. Lossing Collins means it is going to take that much longer to fix. Also I don't care who you are if the QB has 7 seconds to throw the ball defensive backs are going to get beat deep.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I just can't wait for Part IIIII

[swede]

Parts of 7 of 9 are going to be good also.

[Fritz]

I'm such a typical guy. Thick, luscious lips, big tits - who cares if she's of another species altogether?

[pbmax]

I'm such a typical guy. Thick, luscious lips, big tits - who cares if she's of another species altogether?

Fritz, this is the movie for you.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114508/

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Aaron Rodgers deserves a Hater's Take article this week that doesn't mention of any of his weaknesses. Rodgers is good.