Tebow

[Brandon494]

He's good for the game right now but would any of you really want him to be the QB for your NFL team? I think they have beaten one playoff team during this run and he's completing less than 50% of his passes. He's Vince Young without the mental problems.

[Fritz]

I'm with Brandon on this one.

I would also add that part of the reason this story is so big is that BSPN makes it so. They've changed the NFL from a team game to a game of individual stars. Given the choice, they'll always pump the individual storyline over the team storyline. They create the narratives - just listen to them. The talking heads say things like "Is this Tebow thing really that big of a story?" . . . and in saying so, they of course are making it a story. The media, sadly, often does control what the stories are that people talk about.

[pbmax]

I'll say this about Tebow. I'm currently at the University of Florida and, understandably, a lot of eyes are on him and we're all rooting for him. Last week the cable provider changed the 4:15 game from Bucs v Jags to the Bronco game. Once again, they changed it from an in-state rivalry game solely because of Tebow. There's never been anybody like this before with such a devoted fanbase and at the same time such a devoted group of cynics. I expect the Patriots to give the Broncos an ass-whooping come this week and put a cool to the Tebow hype. I'll say this, though, if Tebow pulls this one off, especially if it's largely due to his efforts (and not so much defense and miscues by the opponent like the Chicago game), then we're gonna enter a whole different realm of hype. I'll agree with Robert Kraft on one thing- hate him or love him, Tebow is good for the game right now.

The Patriots will make it interesting just like the Packers, they have no pass defense at all. It will also be interesting to see if the Broncos can take advantage of the Patriots just below average run defense.

[gbgary]

He's good for the game right now but would any of you really want him to be the QB for your NFL team? I think they have beaten one playoff team during this run and he's completing less than 50% of his passes. He's Vince Young without the mental problems.

hell no! he is what he is and the broncos are getting what they can out of him. if den would run their tebow-time offense all game long i think his passing number would be better. that's when he seems to make his mark. i think young is a much better passer though.

[Upnorth]

He's good for the game right now but would any of you really want him to be the QB for your NFL team? I think they have beaten one playoff team during this run and he's completing less than 50% of his passes. He's Vince Young without the mental problems.

I give a ton of credit to his Defence and Oline. I wonder how much of his 4th quarter magic is the opposing D being gassed from the previous 3 quarters of road grading?

[mraynrand]

Based on the globe in the lower right-hand corner, dolphins and other sea mammals are more interested in Tebow, while people in Africa, Asia, Europe, Greenland, and Eastern Brazil are more interested in eating than either story.

[Upnorth]

Mr Rand, your observation is completely wrong, they are excited about the christams season and Santa, hence the white, DUH!

Oh and Tebow is thinking about replacing Santa this year and giving the gift of Tebow to the world!

[hoosier]

As Harry Caray would say, Tebow backwards is Wobet.

[Tarlam!]

I give a ton of credit to his Defence and Oline. I wonder how much of his 4th quarter magic is the opposing D being gassed from the previous 3 quarters of road grading?

Was this the same defence and Oline that Kyle Orton led to so many losses early in the season? Not trying to by a smart alec, but, did they get some injured players back or something?

If not, then it comes down to a different tone in the locker room. That's what Elway has been sninutuating. Players will play for Tebow.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He's Vince Young without the mental problems.

Well, unless you consider religous fanatacism a mental problem.

Just kidding, lighten up. There is nothing odd about tatooing chapter and verse references on your body, no worse than the snake tatoo on your wiener.

Would Tebow be considered a "great human being" if he didn't look like a more handsome version of a Ken doll? Guy looks like oversize choir boy. What if Teebow looked like Atari Bigby?

Would there be Tebowmania if he was a vocal athiest? Could he still be considered a "great human being?"

I don't resent Tebow's religiosity. I do resent him being treated like a great person because of it. Maybe he is a great person, he at least seems pleasant.

[mraynrand]

As Harry Caray would say, Tebow backwards is Wobet.

He would say that. He might also say "Wow! Look at the guy in the left field bleachers. Tell, me Steve Stone if that isn't the largest head you've ever seen in your life. I didn't know they made baseball caps big enough to cover such a thing. What a melon! Holy Cow!!!"

Steve Stone: "Uhhh Harry, take off the reading glasses"

[mraynrand]

There is nothing odd about tatooing chapter and verse references on your body, no worse than the snake tatoo on your wiener.

A girl friend of mine once told me she was with a guy who had a slinky tattoo on his johnson. Imagine that! Holy Cow! "It walks downstairs, alone or in pairs, and makes a slinkety sound......"

[pbmax]

Was this the same defence and Oline that Kyle Orton led to so many losses early in the season? Not trying to by a smart alec, but, did they get some injured players back or something?

If not, then it comes down to a different tone in the locker room. That's what Elway has been sninutuating. Players will play for Tebow.

Their defense did have some injuries; Dumerville and Bailey missed time along with others. However, unlike Orton, Tebow is limiting INTs and has improved their running game. So the offense is not putting the defense in bad spots and they tend to hold their own in field position battles, despite a metric ton of 3 and outs. They tend not to go backward or cough up the ball.

In other words, if you were going to ask the defense to win a game for you, Tebow is being as helpful as possible while not being able to dominate through the air.

The advanced stat folks can find marginal improvement in the defense overall with Tebow (its much better since the Detroit game) but far and away the biggest change has been the run game.

[gbgary]

on a side note...it looks like orton's going to qb the chiefs this weekend if he's healthy.

[Upnorth]

Their defense did have some injuries; Dumerville and Bailey missed time along with others. However, unlike Orton, Tebow is limiting INTs and has improved their running game. So the offense is not putting the defense in bad spots and they tend to hold their own in field position battles, despite a metric ton of 3 and outs. They tend not to go backward or cough up the ball.

In other words, if you were going to ask the defense to win a game for you, Tebow is being as helpful as possible while not being able to dominate through the air.

The advanced stat folks can find marginal improvement in the defense overall with Tebow (its much better since the Detroit game) but far and away the biggest change has been the run game.

I mentioned somewhere else teh reduced turnovers, should have included it in my above statement. So does road grading for 3 quarters make teh passing game that much easier in the 4th? Tebow passer rating in the 4th is one of the best in the league, and he sucks in teh 1 - 3 quarters.