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  • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    A girl friend of mine once told me she......"
    Now I know you're lying! No girl would ever befriend you!

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    • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
      I mentioned somewhere else teh reduced turnovers, should have included it in my above statement. So does road grading for 3 quarters make teh passing game that much easier in the 4th? Tebow passer rating in the 4th is one of the best in the league, and he sucks in teh 1 - 3 quarters.
      I think it helps the defense in having decent field position to defend, their odds of a stop are better. It doesn't hurt in TOP (3 and outs don't help much but the clock is running) either. Not sure about number of possessions and plays in the game so the tired defense angle is questionable.

      But I think what changes in the 4th quarter is that opponents alter their defense with a lead and play prevent, which seems to be the only defense he is accurate or decisive with for short passing. Playing that prevent also gives him more time in the pocket, which helps him two ways; first, he throws well if he can track a receiver and no pressure gives him time and second, no pressure means you can run long routes under the umbrella of prevent coverage to evade the short pass defenders AND give a target for Tebow to track.

      If you think about it, Tebow is running the Oakland Raiders offense from 1975. Only instead of vertical Go routes, he is throwing even longer developing crossing routes. Tebow is Kenny Stabler.

      And its not a horrible design for an offense; run like mad and force safeties and linebackers to honor the run, then occasionally throw deep. He couldn't exist in a Gillam offense or a Walsh offense, but he does a pretty good "Snake".
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        I think it helps the defense in having decent field position to defend, their odds of a stop are better. It doesn't hurt in TOP (3 and outs don't help much but the clock is running) either. Not sure about number of possessions and plays in the game so the tired defense angle is questionable.

        But I think what changes in the 4th quarter is that opponents alter their defense with a lead and play prevent, which seems to be the only defense he is accurate or decisive with for short passing. Playing that prevent also gives him more time in the pocket, which helps him two ways; first, he throws well if he can track a receiver and no pressure gives him time and second, no pressure means you can run long routes under the umbrella of prevent coverage to evade the short pass defenders AND give a target for Tebow to track.

        If you think about it, Tebow is running the Oakland Raiders offense from 1975. Only instead of vertical Go routes, he is throwing even longer developing crossing routes. Tebow is Kenny Stabler.

        And its not a horrible design for an offense; run like mad and force safeties and linebackers to honor the run, then occasionally throw deep. He couldn't exist in a Gillam offense or a Walsh offense, but he does a pretty good "Snake".
        I had not seen this, nor heard this analysis, but upon firther review it seems like a plausible and perhaps probable explanation. I have not watched alot of Denver games, but heavy runs do bring saftey's up allowing man coverage deep.
        Your a pretty smart guy PB
        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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        • I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Those reindeers are fucking hating. Someone put them down.

            Hell no would I want him to be the franchise but I think it is entertaining. Last Sunday as I watched the raiders beatdown in the 4th I looked down at the other scores and saw den 3 chi 10. I think thats what it was. I thought "Tebows about to Tebow the bears!". Next thing it's 10 to 10, OT then over. I had to laugh cuz first its the bears and also because of the Tebow lovers and Tebow haters that would be in a frenzy. IMO It is good for the NFL and like everything else will fade.

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            • My wife is now hooked on Tebow. She seldom shows interest in the Packers even. Yet, we are flipping through the channels, and ESPN has the Tebow "Year of the Quarterback" show on. I explain the Tebow phenomenon to her. We watch a little. She gets up and says she's going to bed, but she wants me to DVR the show because it looks interesting.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                ESPN has the Tebow "Year of the Quarterback" show on.
                Just watched it. Good show!

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                • on inside the nfl they featured a mic'd-up greg jennings and tim tebow. he was singing gospel songs during the game.

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                  • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                    on inside the nfl they featured a mic'd-up greg jennings and tim tebow. he was singing gospel songs during the game.
                    The noise you hear is Bobby Layne and Don Meredith spinning in their graves.

                    What happned to the QB being your biggest drunk?

                    THAT's the old NFL tradition.

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                    • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                      What happned to the QB being your biggest drunk?
                      QBs had to drink to deal with all the pain in their bodies.

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                      • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                        QBs had to drink to deal with all the pain in their bodies.
                        In other words, after the Broncos play the Steelers and Tebow meets James Harrison, the universe will return to normal.

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                        • Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                          In other words, after the Broncos play the Steelers and Tebow meets James Harrison, the universe will return to normal.
                          I'm not a T-boner, but I'm not sure Harrison doesn't take on some pain himself if he tries to spear Tebow like he does a QB of a more slight build.
                          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                          • Tebow might put a Reggie White-style whoopin' on Harrison if he tries some shit.

                            I love this story.

                            http://thepigskindoctors.com/2010/08...-reggie-white/
                            All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                            • Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                              Tebow might put a Reggie White-style whoopin' on Harrison if he tries some shit.

                              I love this story.

                              http://thepigskindoctors.com/2010/08...-reggie-white/
                              That was GREAT Craig! Thanks for sharing. I wish I'd seen that play with my own eyes!

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                              • Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                                After thinking about this some more (while Tebow-ing), I say Tebow will lead the Broncos to the playoffs and shock the world with a playoff win.

                                I'm backing the not-so-little engine that could.
                                Bump for the 11/18 prediction!
                                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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