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  • Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
    To be fair - it was heavily politically motivated (anti Obama) and signed by many Christian right leaders (notably Dobson).
    To be more fair, being against Obama doesn't make them politically motivated, no more than you would be considered anti democrat after some guy who happened to be wearing an Obama pin walked up and punched you in the face for no reason and you took issue with that. More likely it makes them concerned for their own liberties.
    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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    • Originally posted by Kiwon View Post
      Tarlam, my posts are reactions to your assertions that somehow Tim Tebow is stalking you and assaulting you with his words. Are you ready to acknowledge that it is you who has overreacted and demonstrated intolerance toward a public figure that you don't know and have never met just because he expresses his faith very naturally in public? And, yes, for many, I think Tebow's happiness and confidence brings out a visceral distain in those who don't have much of either.

      Tar, there are plenty of evangelical believers who don't feel completely comfortable with Tebow's approach. But, hey, they are not Tim Tebow. Tebow's a leader and his faith is central to his life and it is the reporters clamoring to put microphones in front of his face. From his perspective, he understands it as an opportunity to share about the God he truly loves. Of course, he is going to speak about the most important relationship in his life. If his life is guided 24/7 by his faith it would only be natural for him to do so.

      In time, I think Tebow will learn to self-censer a bit, but that is his choice. He should not be silenced because of other people's insecurities or prejudices. The message of the Gospel, the Good News, is meant to be shared verbally. In fact, it's a command in the Scriptures. However, one has to consider his environment when it comes to receptivity. Tim Tebow is just 24 years old. He will learn to be a better communicator with age and experience. As I said before, his rapid success is a great football story but the faith dimension is being blown out of proportion by the press.

      It is the press that is making Tebow into something he is not and distorting who he is. Unfortunately, it is those portrayals that are fanning the flame of religious intolerance that many people carry within them.
      You contradict yourself in this post (like all your others) so many times that it's not even funny. In the first paragraph, you claim Tarlam "has overreacted and demonstrated intolerance toward a public figure." Yet, in the second paragraph, you admit that "plenty of evangelical believers don't feel completely comfortable with Tebow's approach." So, are they also, intolerant?

      You go on to state that Tebow "will learn to self-censer(sic) a bit." But, I thought Tarlam and even "evangelical believers" were overreacting? Later you add that "the faith dimension is being blown out of proportion by the press." If everyone is overreacting, and the presss is blowing what he says out of proportion, why will Tebow learn to self-censor?

      You see it, but you just can't (or won't) acknowledge it--Tebow is bringing it all on himself. When you announce your entrance to the national spotlight by cutting a commercial for a controversial group like "Focus on the Family," you, and your supporters, really can't claim that anyone is blowing your religious intents out of proportion.

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      • It seems a little unfair to criticize Tebow for his beliefs. He thanks Jesus every day of his life. I'm sure he thanks him when he loses as well. It is part of his belief structure. I surely have no problem with the way he handles himself. When he starts giving sermons up there, I might have a problem with it, but until then this is how he believes he is supposed to be. It could be way more over the top. Part of the christian belief is that you should testify in the name of the lord and spread the good news. If you don't like it shut it off, Tebow is a great story and well I love the fact he has kept GB out of the spotlight. Keep up the good work Timmy!

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        • Originally posted by Kiwon View Post
          The bottom line is that Tim Tebow is happy and a lot of other people aren’t.
          And, because he says that his faith is a key source of his happiness, it irks those who reject his belief system and/or consider themselves too smart to have religious faith.
          That is a strawman argument, not to mention a rude and stereotyping opinion.

          The bottom line is that [insert poster name here] is secure and happy with his religion and a lot of other people aren't.

          And, because he/she is so secure that he says that he doesn't need someone to confirm his beliefs as part of a discussion of a sporting event, it irks those who are not as secure in their belief system and/or consider themselves more morally correct than him.

          Get off your high horse. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.

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          • So to go off on a tangent here, studies have shown that most people are happiest when anticipating something. You are excited to go on vacation and the thought of vacation, then complain about the lineups there. You cant wait to open your present then think what is this junk? YOu get so excited for the first kiss from suzy after the movie, then realize she has garlic breath. I am overstating a little, but anticipation makes us happier! Christians wait their whole life anticipating a big reward . . .

            So Tebow exploited a defence that was taking away only one part of his game. His OC recongnized this and they won. I can see how the trap was set and give great credit to the Den first half defence for making it possible.
            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

            George Orwell

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            • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
              So to go off on a tangent...
              Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
              water...3-4 litres a day is a good, healthy thing. 30-40 litres will drown you.
              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
              It is however enough for a wet T-Shirt contest.
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Eh, that's enough for me.


              Last edited by gbgary; 01-10-2012, 11:19 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                So to go off on a tangent here, studies have shown that most people are happiest when anticipating something.
                I'm anticipating death, but it doesn't make me happy.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • GBGary that is amazing use of logic right there. You should be a detective or something!

                  Rand, a happy anticipation is what I am refering to, if you have nothing to look forward to you will have a much bleaker existance. I look forward to GB beating Tebow in the SB this year.
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                    Rand, a happy anticipation is what I am refering to, if you have nothing to look forward to you will have a much bleaker existance. I look forward to GB beating Tebow in the SB this year.
                    The anticipation of my imminent death will make others happy. Does that count?

                    Just as I am happy at the prospect of the Giants' demise: O happy dagger!

                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • Wayne was on Twitter last night wondering what the deal was with the Honey Badger and Musberger. He did not yell at anyone to get off his lawn though.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Note for Steeler fans heading to Pitt

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                        • Awesome.
                          C.H.U.D.

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                          • Originally posted by Little Whiskey View Post
                            Note for Steeler fans heading to Pitt
                            mean but funny. is that the denver airport?

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                            • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                              mean but funny. is that the denver airport?
                              You lame ass idiot.

                              See that was mean not so funny. This isnt mean at all. Now go collect another participation award!

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                              • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                                mean but funny. is that the denver airport?
                                yep!

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