funny Jordy Nelson article...

[mraynrand]

BTW Jordy reminds me of Miles Austin

That's a pretty good fit. Austin doesn't play as strong as Nelson though.

[Brandon494]

I know just about everyone's seen this, but damn, it doesn't get old. Seems like a perfect place for it.

Jordy smoking Talib in college:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0ANQ8bRfo

Thats crazy that Nelson, Talib, and Josh Freeman all played in the game yesterday, some talented players right there.

[pbmax]

Javon Walker is 6'3" 215

That's a nice call. I recall Walker as more of a go up and get it guy (warning: stereotype) rather than speed, but they ran similar patterns. Maybe if we cross Lofton and Walker in a purely theoretical sense.

[pbmax]

Jordy's 40 time at the combine (4.49) was almost as good as Jennings (4.46) 2 years earlier. I think Jennings can get up to full speed more quickly, but Jordy has a top speed as least as fast as Jennings.

Are you telling me I can't trust wikipedia's 40 yard times?

Dammit.

[Kiwon]

(Just to stir the pot a little)

Now I see why Blacks make better NFL players than Whites. Them people move wicked fast..... Lots of potential wide receivers in this particular group.

[George Cumby]

I know just about everyone's seen this, but damn, it doesn't get old. Seems like a perfect place for it.

Jordy smoking Talib in college:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0ANQ8bRfo

That gear he shows after the catch is just amazing. Talib just has NO chance.

[Brandon494]

[Kiwon]

Com'on. You can insult Asians better than that, Brandon.

[Harlan Huckleby]

BTW Jordy reminds me of Miles Austin

good comparison, both have great body control

you could see JN's talent right away. he's gotten stronger since rookie year, he plays big. fun player to watch.

[SkinBasket]

Wow thats weak!

First of all you put in Russell's stats from his 2nd season, not his rookie year.

Second Russell played 6 more games

Third you failed to give Cam's rushing stats

and most importantly trying to compare their stats to how they are similar is as weak as me comparing Ryan Grant's stats from the 09 season to Adrian Peterson's stats. In both cases neither player are even close to being the same player.

First, I said it was from his first full season. Second, we all realize Russell played more games. Well those of us who realize the season isn't over yet. But unless you have Cam's stats for the next six games, then maybe you should just settle down or get to the back of the bus or whatever. The stat lines do compare nicely to anyone who doesn't want to have Cam's butt baby though due to the similar number of attempts. I even let Cam have the extra 20 without comment. Third, I'm comparing them as quarterbacks, not running backs. Cam has more yards and more touchdowns in part because of what's expected of him as well, while Russell had a better average per run, which might indicate he was the better athlete.

I'm not comparing players doofus, I'm comparing results. And the most striking similarity lies there: in the number of wins. Scoreboard!

[Brandon494]

First, I said it was from his first full season. Second, we all realize Russell played more games. Well those of us who realize the season isn't over yet.

You said it was from their first full season when Cam still has nearly half the season left to be played. I do realize Russell played more games which proves my point that it was a weak comparison.

I'm not comparing players doofus, I'm comparing results. And the most striking similarity lies there: in the number of wins. Scoreboard!

So I guess Alex Smith is just as good as Aaron Rodgers huh? I mean its not like its a team sport or anything.

Third, I'm comparing them as quarterbacks, not running backs. Cam has more yards and more touchdowns in part because of what's expected of him as well, while Russell had a better average per run, which might indicate he was the better athlete.

If a QB can run that's part of his game, prime example Aaron Rodgers. Cam Newton is third in the NFL in rushing TD whether you want to give him credit for it or not.

[Upnorth]

So just in keeping with the original theme here is a link

http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/5_4724_BREAKING_NEWS%3A_Jordy_Nelson_is_white%21.html

Since its all about race, right???

[SkinBasket]

You said it was from their first full season when Cam still has nearly half the season left to be played. I do realize Russell played more games which proves my point that it was a weak comparison.

The numbers are COMPARABLE exactly because the number of attempts is roughly the same.

So I guess Alex Smith is just as good as Aaron Rodgers huh? I mean its not like its a team sport or anything.

You could say that, if their numbers are similar, as Russell's and Cam's are, to complete your misguided equivocation...

GP	CMP	ATT	CMP%	YDS	AVG	TD	LNG	INT	FUM	RAT
10	238	329	72.3	3,168	9.63	31	93	4	2	128.8
10	171	274	62.4	1,976	7.21	13	44	4	4	93.9

Hmmm... not quite so similar. It would appear the other half of your comparison fails. That IS a surprise. 3200 is significantly more than 1950 and 31 is a lot more than 13, even though they use the same numbers. Math, it's FUNdamental.

If a QB can run that's part of his game, prime example Aaron Rodgers. Cam Newton is third in the NFL in rushing TD whether you want to give him credit for it or not.

Good for him. It doesn't make him any better at throwing a football.

Lets try to match their stats running however to test your theory about running. If Oakland had Russell run the ball as much as Carolina does Newton, he would have had 577 yards to Cam's 411. 4.5 touchdowns to Cam's 9. And about 50 first downs to Cam's 29. Based of the statistic over the same period of time as those above. Sooo... yeah, as of right now, Cam's not that much better than JaMarcus was, outside of your fanboy excitement over him. Cam does have 6 more games to try to match Russell's 3 wins over that period. based on their season thus far, I'm guessing he ends with 3 wins. Maybe 4 if their defense can make up for his lack of leadership, accuracy, and his propensity for throwing the football to the wrong team.

[Brandon494]

Lmao do you even watch football? Russell was no where near the runner Cam is. Cam is A LOT more accurate, and Oakland had a pretty good defense that year where as the Panthers are dead near last in the league but you keep going off "made up" stats. How the hell does someone score 4.5 TDs? Lmao. Fanboy my ass, you cant just admit you were wrong about Newton and have to make this sorry argument to try to prove your point. FAIL! Any GM in the league would laugh in your face if you ever tried to make this argument to them. BTW stats are so overrated, try watching some games instead of googling for your information.

[Upnorth]

I love this forum, A driver thread turns into another Finley discussion, a Nelson forum turns into a Cam Newton vrs Jamarcuss Russel. That is impressive.
So which are better, smurfs or thunder cats?