funny Jordy Nelson article...

[mission]

Bigger POS: Dodge Reliant K or AMC Pacer?

The Pacer gets points for looking out-of-the-ordinary horrible, but the Reliant K's were known to rust off a bumper before the oil could get changed for the first time.

Or Renault Encore. I got one for free in high school with no reverse... used to have to push it out of parking stalls. Was hilarious filling it up (hatchback) with 6-7 guys from the football team and driving around town honking.

[pbmax]

The numbers are COMPARABLE exactly because the number of attempts is roughly the same.



You could say that, if their numbers are similar, as Russell's and Cam's are, to complete your misguided equivocation...

GP	CMP	ATT	CMP%	YDS	AVG	TD	LNG	INT	FUM	RAT
10	238	329	72.3	3,168	9.63	31	93	4	2	128.8
10	171	274	62.4	1,976	7.21	13	44	4	4	93.9

Hmmm... not quite so similar. It would appear the other half of your comparison fails. That IS a surprise. 3200 is significantly more than 1950 and 31 is a lot more than 13, even though they use the same numbers. Math, it's FUNdamental.



Good for him. It doesn't make him any better at throwing a football.

Lets try to match their stats running however to test your theory about running. If Oakland had Russell run the ball as much as Carolina does Newton, he would have had 577 yards to Cam's 411. 4.5 touchdowns to Cam's 9. And about 50 first downs to Cam's 29. Based of the statistic over the same period of time as those above. Sooo... yeah, as of right now, Cam's not that much better than JaMarcus was, outside of your fanboy excitement over him. Cam does have 6 more games to try to match Russell's 3 wins over that period. based on their season thus far, I'm guessing he ends with 3 wins. Maybe 4 if their defense can make up for his lack of leadership, accuracy, and his propensity for throwing the football to the wrong team.

I was going got argue that Russell got two training camps so the number of attempts was a bad basis to call it an even comparison. But I remember that Genius held out most of camp, so they are closer in experience that might appear at first glance.

But those numbers still say Newton is far superior. INTs are the only thing holding him back. Well, beside the rest of his team, that is.

[pbmax]

Smurfs and Thundercat's can both eat it. Voltron is where it's at.

Aww heck, who am I kidding, my mom probably still has my smurfs, thundercats and voltron toys.

Voltron represent.

Would also accept endorsement of Star Blazers.

[pbmax]

Pacers make excellent terrariums or planters in your front yard with all the window space.

[Brandon494]

But those numbers still say Newton is far superior. INTs are the only thing holding him back. Well, beside the rest of his team, that is.

You don't need stats to know Newton is far superior, even Ray Charles can see that.

[pbmax]

You don't need stats to know Newton is far superior, even Ray Charles can see that.

Yes, but. Rich Mirer looked better on TV than Bledsoe in his first year (not making a direct comparison to Cam/JaMarcus). The numbers do show Newton's passing talent has survived the transition to the NFL in better shape than Russell's, though, to be fair Russell did not have a Steve Smith.

The important part, so that he stays better than Russell or Mirer, is to fix INTs and just improve overall. From his public impression, he seems willing to do the work. I expect he will succeed, Rivera seems to have hired decent O coaches on his staff.

[Guiness]

Voltron represent.

Would also accept endorsement of Star Blazers.

Voltron? You mean that series where the guy in the red suit had the black dog, the guy in the black suit had the blue dog and the guy in the blue suit got the red dog? And then halfway through the series all the dogs disappeared! Phshaw!

[MJZiggy]

Bigger POS: Dodge Reliant K or AMC Pacer?

The Pacer gets points for looking out-of-the-ordinary horrible, but the Reliant K's were known to rust off a bumper before the oil could get changed for the first time.

The Thing. Was that Renault?

[Brandon494]

Yes, but. Rich Mirer looked better on TV than Bledsoe in his first year (not making a direct comparison to Cam/JaMarcus). The numbers do show Newton's passing talent has survived the transition to the NFL in better shape than Russell's, though, to be fair Russell did not have a Steve Smith.

The important part, so that he stays better than Russell or Mirer, is to fix INTs and just improve overall. From his public impression, he seems willing to do the work. I expect he will succeed, Rivera seems to have hired decent O coaches on his staff.

I've never watched Bledsoe or Mirer early in their careers so I don't really know much them but what I do know is that the type of throws that Cam's making Russell never made in Oakland. Stats also don't show the leadership and work ethic that Cam has. Everyone knows Russell was a fat lazy piece of shit that didn't put in the time, Cam is the complete opposite. Anyone can skew stats to make a point but there is a reason every NFL expert is so high on Cam Newton.

[mraynrand]

Voltron represent.

Would also accept endorsement of Star Blazers.

Krypt and Lysis are going to shoot you with a wave motion gun.

[Brandon494]

Too bad X-Men shits on all those shows.

[mraynrand]

Too bad X-Men shits on all those shows.

Apples and Oranges. X-men is edgy awesomeness. That old school Japanimation is just hokey/camp.

[SkinBasket]

I was going got argue that Russell got two training camps so the number of attempts was a bad basis to call it an even comparison. But I remember that Genius held out most of camp, so they are closer in experience that might appear at first glance.

But those numbers still say Newton is far superior. INTs are the only thing holding him back. Well, beside the rest of his team, that is.

What exactly makes you say "FAR superior?" Because I see some pretty comparable results. Again, you can argue style and personality all you want, but their results have been pretty similar, and I would argue that results are what this league is about. Thus: Jordy Nelson, who many here were unwilling to place above James Jones neigh a year ago.

[Brandon494]

Maybe because Nelson has stepped up his game this season, some want to forget how Nelson had issues with dropping passes also including 3 in the Super Bowl.

[MadtownPacker]

Maybe because Nelson has stepped up his game this season, some want to forget how Nelson had issues with dropping passes also including 3 in the Super Bowl.

Good thing he made up for it with his 9 catches go for a buck 40 with a TD.