funny Jordy Nelson article...

[mraynrand]

My recollection of Collinsworth was a tall, lanky, too thin guy getting beat up across the middle. But the guy could also run a decent fly pattern too. More like Driver, but less durable. I can't ever recall Cris Collinsworth blocking anyone or stiff-arming anyone effectively, but he may have done it.

I just didn't see enough of Stallworth to know. Taylor is a good example, but he too seemed to play softer than Nelson.

I still think a tougher Miles Austin is a good match.

[RashanGary]

Hines Ward.

[Brandon494]

Hines Ward? Don't see that at all, I said he reminded me of Miles Austin. Don't understand why he would be a tougher Miles though since you never see him make any tough catches over the middle.

[gbgary]

My recollection of Collinsworth was a tall, lanky, too thin guy getting beat up across the middle. But the guy could also run a decent fly pattern too. More like Driver, but less durable. I can't ever recall Cris Collinsworth blocking anyone or stiff-arming anyone effectively, but he may have done it.

I just didn't see enough of Stallworth to know. Taylor is a good example, but he too seemed to play softer than Nelson.

I still think a tougher Miles Austin is a good match.

jordy's way better than that one year wonder miles austin. love that jones threw a shit load of money at that guy.

[mraynrand]

Hines Ward? Don't see that at all, I said he reminded me of Miles Austin. Don't understand why he would be a tougher Miles though since you never see him make any tough catches over the middle.

I said a few pages back I think Jordy plays stronger than Miles Austin. That's what I meant by tougher above. If you want to split hairs over 'tougher' and 'stronger', feel free. Jordy doesn't go over the middle all that much. That's for Driver and in the future I would think Cobb.

[mraynrand]

jordy's way better than that one year wonder miles austin. love that jones threw a shit load of money at that guy.

I agree. But I thought the exercise was to find an apt comparison for body type and playing style.

[Brandon494]

How is he stronger than Miles Austin then?

[mraynrand]

How is he stronger than Miles Austin then?

I looked back at some of the Cowboy games I have and Austin tends to avoid contact more that use a stiff arm, like Nelson. Nelson also seems a more willing and effective blocker. I don't have a ton of film but that's what it looks like to me.

[Brandon494]

jordy's way better than that one year wonder miles austin. love that jones threw a shit load of money at that guy.

You must be a Cowboy hater if you think Nelson is better than Miles Austin. Austin had been going up against team's #1 CB while having Romo at QB while this is Nelson is going against the #2/#3 with the best QB in the league throwing him the ball.

[Brandon494]

I looked back at some of the Cowboy games I have and Austin tends to avoid contact more that use a stiff arm, like Nelson. Nelson also seems a more willing and effective blocker. I don't have a ton of film but that's what it looks like to me.

I think thats because Austin has more elusiveness then Nelson. I don't think Nelson using a stiff arm makes him a stronger player, I honestly I really can't recall Nelson breaking many tackles.

[mraynrand]

You must be a Cowboy hater if you think Nelson is better than Miles Austin. Austin had been going up against team's #1 CB while having Romo at QB while this is Nelson is going against the #2/#3 with the best QB in the league throwing him the ball.

Their careers are following a similar arc, but Jordy is yet to put up the kind of numbers as Austin. Arguably, these should be his big years. I would argue that Witten is a lot like Jennings to Romo, catching very close to 100 both years where Austin went over 1000 yards, and being his number one go to receiver - even if it's at the TE position. I think it makes the comparison more similar.

As far as the high powered offense - it's a trade off -having more targets open things up for you, but they also take away from your potential receptions, reducing your stats.

[mraynrand]

I think thats because Austin has more elusiveness then Nelson.

Especially when it comes to blocking!

[mraynrand]

From the Protein drink thread, we now know from where Witten's strength comes:

[Brandon494]

Their careers are following a similar arc, but Jordy is yet to put up the kind of numbers as Austin. Arguably, these should be his big years. I would argue that Witten is a lot like Jennings to Romo, catching very close to 100 both years where Austin went over 1000 yards, and being his number one go to receiver - even if it's at the TE position. I think it makes the comparison more similar.

As far as the high powered offense - it's a trade off -having more targets open things up for you, but they also take away from your potential receptions, reducing your stats.

You can't compare Wittin and Jennings just because of their stats, Witten never has the #1 CB matched against him like Jennings. Even though they have similar playing styles I still think Miles Austin is a better player than Jordy Nelson.

[mraynrand]

You can't compare Wittin and Jennings just because of their stats, Witten never has the #1 CB matched against him like Jennings.

Actually, that's not true. I've seen Witten covered by the defense's top corner. Also, Jennings is used by Stubby much like Witten is used by Dallas - being put into the slot to force matchups with safeties and LBs. Recall for example Jennings' TD in the Superbowl at the end of the half. Based on number of receptions, Witten has been a far bigger target in Dallas' offense than Jennings in GB - by 30%. Defenses knew he was the number one target in '09 and '10.

Even though they have similar playing styles I still think Miles Austin is a better player than Jordy Nelson.

Of course you do. Still, Austin has two years on Nelson, and Nelson is having his first big year. It will be interesting to see how he matches up over time.