funny Jordy Nelson article...

[Brandon494]

Actually, that's not true. I've seen Witten covered by the defense's top corner. Also, Jennings is used by Stubby much like Witten is used by Dallas - being put into the slot to force matchups with safeties and LBs. Recall for example Jennings' TD in the Superbowl at the end of the half. Based on number of receptions, Witten has been a far bigger target in Dallas' offense than Jennings in GB - by 30%. Defenses knew he was the number one target in '09 and '10.

Which top CB has covered Witten? I know Woodson did last year but that's only because Williams is our top cover corner. Its clear Witten is Romo's favorite target but that doesn't change the fact 80% of the time the top CB was covering Miles Austin the past two seasons. This guy was beating double coverage while with Nelson you always see him in single coverage? Why? because teams have to focus on Jennings and Finley.

Of course you do. Still, Austin has two years on Nelson, and Nelson is having his first big year. It will be interesting to see how he matches up over time

Why cuz he's black? (rolls eyes) Sorry I don't see everything thru green and gold glasses. Nelson is having a hell of a year but I see it more due to Rodgers then Nelson making plays. Nelson is always in single coverage and Rodgers is always throwing the ball in the perfect spot. With Miles he actually breaking tackles and has Romo throwing him the ball.

[gbgary]

You must be a Cowboy hater if you think Nelson is better than Miles Austin. Austin had been going up against team's #1 CB while having Romo at QB while this is Nelson is going against the #2/#3 with the best QB in the league throwing him the ball.

austin has been going against 1s and 2s because he's the second best receiver on the cowboys...which isn't saying much. he was out there with roy williams (old, slow, and now gone) and now is second to dez bryant (an out of shape headcase who's always hurt). austin is hurt ALL the time. how many complete games has he played in the last two years?

[Brandon494]

Roy Williams was never the #1 since Austin got the starting job. He was also the #1 last season when Dez was drafted and only reason Bryant is #1 this season is because Miles has been injured. I do beileve that Dez Bryant will pass him as the #1 WR though.

[mraynrand]

Which top CB has covered Witten? I know Woodson did last year but that's only because Williams is our top cover corner. Its clear Witten is Romo's favorite target but that doesn't change the fact 80% of the time the top CB was covering Miles Austin the past two seasons. This guy was beating double coverage while with Nelson you always see him in single coverage? Why? because teams have to focus on Jennings and Finley.



Why cuz he's black? (rolls eyes) Sorry I don't see everything thru green and gold glasses. Nelson is having a hell of a year but I see it more due to Rodgers then Nelson making plays. Nelson is always in single coverage and Rodgers is always throwing the ball in the perfect spot. With Miles he actually breaking tackles and has Romo throwing him the ball.

In the games I looked at, the safety coverage was rolled to Witten more than Austin. The point being - as I already said once - that Austin has not been the primary focus of the defense - Witten has, much like Jennings for the Packers. Because Dallas has fewer targets, Austin has also been getting more opportunities. This is key: Were Nelson on Dallas in place of Austin, he would very likely be getting more throws too (if he weren't injured like Austin). Austin was getting a lot of single coverage - or two deep safety stuff - that Nelson sees a lot too.

Are you saying in 2009 that Williams was better than Woodson? I think that's a close call.

You made the comparison with Austin. I think it was a good comparison. I think your accusation of Green and Gold bias is trite. The only bias comes from having seen Nelson in every game and Austin in only about half his games at best. As I indicated, Austin has two years on Nelson, so it's not clear to me whether Nelson will have the same success as Austin, or whether either of them will last long. I think you're right that Austin is more elusive, but I'll repeat that I think Nelson is stronger with the straight arm breaking tackles and is a better - tougher, stronger, more effective - blocker.

[gbgary]

Roy Williams was never the #1 since Austin got the starting job. He was also the #1 last season when Dez was drafted and only reason Bryant is #1 this season is because Miles has been injured. I do beileve that Dez Bryant will pass him as the #1 WR though.

either way, if you look at jordy and austin over the last...say...two seasons, who'd you rather have on you team? it's not even close. they do have similar body types though their styles are different.

[Brandon494]

I'd rather have Miles Austin

[Cheesehead Craig]

The way Laurent Robinson has been playing, when Austin comes back I think he's going to get bigger numbers with the added threat out there now as the doubles simply won't happen as often. Dallas as 3 very good WRs to add to Witten.

[BZnDallas]

sports talk down here in dallas is talking about bryant being the no. 3 wr at the start of next year... austin being the 1 and robinson being the 2... it actually makes sense b/c they are going to be having bryant return punts now and that probably isn't the best option for your 2 starting wrs... dez obviously has more talent than the other 2 put together but he can't run routes and romo can't trust him to be were he should be... all the good plays you see dez make are broken plays or throw it up and go get it plays... i'd take the GB wr core over the D core but that is pretty obvious... and of course its just sports talk so who really knows... but dez will be returning punts come sunday... something to think about...

just one mans opinion...

[Upnorth]

So it looks like Nelson is getting more praise, this time from Footballoutsider.com
Their charting has Jordy Nelson as having the highest DVOA (high is good, above 0 is better than average, negative is bad) of wide recievers with more than 60 catches. Dude is amazing, and what I think is the best part is Nelson credits the quality of Jennings and Finley making him open more often. That is winning with style!

[gbgary]

:/ fail for not providing a link and making me do all that typing.


edit: whoa...got tired-head very quickly.

[Upnorth]

So why does it sometimes make a link when you type it in, and others not? Or do I just really suck at technology! So is everyone going to pile on like the Bloomberg article? (that was kinda funny)

[mraynrand]

Dude is amazing, and what I think is the best part is Nelson credits the quality of Jennings and Finley making him open more often. That is winning with style!

YEah it's good he acknowledges it, because it's true. That's why you like to have multiple talented offensive players, so that a defense can't shut you down by taking out one or two guys. See the number the Packers D did on Detroit, by doubling Calivin Johnson and putting Matthews and Woodson on Pettigrew. One more quality player and the Packers D would have been at risk (see Giants and N.O. games for examples).

[SkinBasket]

I'd rather have Miles Austin

I would rather you were white.

[mission]

I'd rather have Miles Austin

We're usually on the same page but I don't follow that at all.

[Brandon494]

Miles Austin > Jordy Nelson but I understand why some don't agree.