Other games week 12 (including Thanksgiving)

[MJZiggy]

who won the game, dick heads?

guess I'll have to go to espn.com. packerrats lets me down again

Sorry, I was too busy lusting after JOHN Harbaugh to remember to post it. Besides, first row had the whole post game thing. NFLN was giving out pies. (that they had manhandled through the whole game). Terrell Suggs got the pie and then they brought out fresh ones for Harbaugh and his daughter.

[mraynrand]

Ravens kick FG, now up 16-6 with 3:05 mins to go.

who won the game, dick heads?

guess I'll have to go to espn.com. packerrats lets me down again

not too quick on the uptake last night, eh? Probably too much tryptophan.

[mmmdk]

not too quick on the uptake last night, eh? Probably too much tryptophan.

Blue dog thought it could've been a new Heidi Bowl.

[smuggler]

Blue Dog is the best dog.

[mmmdk]

Blue Dog is the best dog.

Did Heidi have a dog? If so, I bet it was a blue dog.

[mmmdk]

Raiders beat Bears

[sheepshead]

[channtheman]

TEBOW!

[Brandon494]

DEFENSE!

[pbmax]

All he does is win

That team is going to have a devil of a time making a decision for next season. They have to commit to that offense if they are keeping Tebow to start, if not, they need to see Quinn or draft one of the non-Luck QBs in the first two rounds of the next draft.

I still have a hard time believing that coaches and Elway, who did not draft him, will do a complete U-turn for their offense, but Fox might be the one guy who would give it a shot. If it was Shanahan, Gruden, Holmgren, Saunders, et al, they would be too married to their offense to accept it.

[Cheesehead Craig]

All he does is win

And that's all that matters in the NFL.

[Guiness]

I'm with you pb - what do they do???? I can't see them being terribly happy with anything...except the wins.

Here's an interesting item: in games Tebow started, the defense has held the other team to less than 20 points 4 out of 5 times. In games Orton started, they allowed more than 20 points 4 of 5 times!!!!
There's a weak argument that Tebow keeps the opposing O off the field, but I tend to think it was just shitty damn luck on Orton's part.

[Joemailman]

I'm with you pb - what do they do???? I can't see them being terribly happy with anything...except the wins.

Here's an interesting item: in games Tebow started, the defense has held the other team to less than 20 points 4 out of 5 times. In games Orton started, they allowed more than 20 points 4 of 5 times!!!!
There's a weak argument that Tebow keeps the opposing O off the field, but I tend to think it was just shitty damn luck on Orton's part.

Both Dumervil and Champ Bailey missed some games in the first month of the season. That had a lot to do with the poor defensive play when Orton was in there.

[channtheman]

When Tebow does put the ball on the money, his receivers drop it half the time. I didn't watch the Broncos much when Orton played, but it appears that the receivers are so bad that a passing QB would suffer more than a running QB like Tebow.

[channtheman]

I'm with you pb - what do they do???? I can't see them being terribly happy with anything...except the wins.

Here's an interesting item: in games Tebow started, the defense has held the other team to less than 20 points 4 out of 5 times. In games Orton started, they allowed more than 20 points 4 of 5 times!!!!
There's a weak argument that Tebow keeps the opposing O off the field, but I tend to think it was just shitty damn luck on Orton's part.

There's also the Brett Favre argument of "He wills his team to victory and his team plays harder for him." "He makes the team around him better (except for his receivers who drop way too many passes)."