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  • #16
    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
    Don't like the idea of Smith with the headset. I wonder what the idea behind that is? Does it have to be an MLB in this scheme? You would think they'd give it to a vet, or at least someone who's been starting all season.

    Who knows though. Maybe he's got a great grasp of the D?
    +1

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    • #17
      Had a feeling they'd not be ready; really looking forward to watch DJ & Francois versus G-Men as both did well last week.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
        We are lucky the giants rb corp is depleted, we had enough trouble covering rb's and te's before, now what could happen?
        Getting Hawk off the field will improve coverage of TEs and RBs.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
          Getting Hawk off the field SHOULD improve coverage of TEs and RBs.
          Fixed (and i really hope your right).
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          • #20
            Originally posted by red View Post
            i'm kind of excited to see smith play with the starters

            guy has a nonstop motor
            +1

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ND72 View Post
              I love how we went last year praising Hawk for being the general on the field, now we are ready to trade him for an unproven 5'11" rookie. I remember when Bryan Brohm was our savior against Aaron Rodgers by so many here. Hawk isn't going anywhere.
              And he might be 5' 11" if he is standing on your shoes.

              I did like what he showed versus the Lions, but if you play Smith, there is no one back there who has been groomed to be the shock absorber and take on a Guard like Hawk has been asked to do at the Buck (=strongside, Mack=weakside) ILB position. To ask Bishop to do it (he seems big enough) is to take away his best skills. That doesn't happen every play, but it would change Bishop's game some.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                Don't like the idea of Smith with the headset. I wonder what the idea behind that is? Does it have to be an MLB in this scheme? You would think they'd give it to a vet, or at least someone who's been starting all season.

                Who knows though. Maybe he's got a great grasp of the D?
                It's Smith and Burnett with radios. They tried Woodson but he didn't like it. I can see it being a big distraction if you are not used to it.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #23
                  Hawk is an offensive guard of the defense, he doesnt get the stats or the flash but without him the defense is not as good...can you see Smith cover Graham at 6'7"?
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                  • #24
                    The new guys are always the most beloved players by the fans; don't be surprised if after tomorrow's game we'll be wishing Hawk...and Bishop especially.....played
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                      Hawk is an offensive guard of the defense, he doesnt get the stats or the flash but without him the defense is not as good...can you see Smith cover Graham at 6'7"?

                      I don't see any of them covering Graham
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        It's Smith and Burnett with radios. They tried Woodson but he didn't like it. I can see it being a big distraction if you are not used to it.
                        I imagine it takes someone who can communicate well, is a student of the game and has the right personality. Also someone who's on the field most or all of the time, so the DL is out because they rotate too much. I wonder if they tried Mathews out?
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                        • #27
                          Why would they try Matthews? He can only view one side of the field

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                          • #28
                            There are very few 3-4 middle linebackers that have the size to take on offensive linemen, and fullbacks in the run game and then have the ability to cover Darren Sproles out of the backfield or cover Antonio Gates downfield. Bishop and Hawk are what they are, they don't have the agility to cover these types of players in the passing game.

                            I am a fan of AJ Hawk and I can't even say he has played well this year. He is missing too many tackles, and that is what he is usually good for.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                              Why would they try Matthews? He can only view one side of the field
                              Interesting take - they want to use guys who have better vision of the field. CB's have their back to the play too much. I would think ILB's don't see much either, they're generally in the most crowded part of the play. DL don't see much either. That would certainly make safeties the best choice.

                              I tend to think the headset it just for the coaches to relay plays to the field and have them passed along, not so much looking for feedback from the player.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                                There are very few 3-4 middle linebackers that have the size to take on offensive linemen, and fullbacks in the run game and then have the ability to cover Darren Sproles out of the backfield or cover Antonio Gates downfield.
                                That's why Barnett is a more valuable player in today's NFL than either of those guys, and he's proving it in Buffalo.


                                INCOMING!!!

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