Lions and Bears done?

[Gunakor]

Don't want the Giants in the playoffs; they can beat us on a good day!

Today was their good day. AR was off form, our WR's and TE's outside of Nelson couldn't catch a cold, Eli made some amazing throws, they could run on us at will, Mase missed a chip shot FG, Starks and Woodson were both knocked out of the game... Days don't get much better than that for teams standing on the opposite sideline. The fact that the Giants still came up short even considering all of that means they clearly are still a few steps behind. They don't worry me.

[mmmdk]

Bears talking to McNabb...oh please do; Packers can humiliate the freck out of him on X-Mas day!

[SkinBasket]

lions' problem is their remaining schedule...minn, oak, sd, Green Bay Packers. one win maybe.

They could just as easily get 3 wins out of that lot. Minn is crap. Oakland got lambasted by Miami, and they're still good enough to beat either Gb or SD with a decent effort.

[mraynrand]

Bears talking to McNabb...oh please do; Packers can humiliate the freck out of him on X-Mas day!

Hiney is far worse than McNabb.

What we need for humiliation are more passes targeted at Roy Williams.

[Badgerinmaine]

They could just as easily get 3 wins out of that lot. Minn is crap. Oakland got lambasted by Miami, and they're still good enough to beat either Gb or SD with a decent effort.

I completely agree with Skin. They get Minnesota and San Diego at Detroit and I think they'd be a solid favorite over either. The wheels are coming off for the Chargers and they don't play well on the road. Never know what to expect from the Raiders this season, either. I say the Lions get one of the NFC wild card spots.

[Smidgeon]

The only one that concerns me is the Lions. They have the talent to put together an unbelievable game, if they get their collective heads out of Suh's you-know-what.

[mraynrand]

I say the Lions get one of the NFC wild card spots.

Especially if Atlanta games keep playing out like a McGruber skit.

[pbmax]

PFT has sources close to Brett Favre saying he would take the Bears call if they dialed him up.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/05/report-brett-favre-would-listen-if-the-bears-came-calling/

[SkinBasket]

PFT has sources close to Brett Favre saying he would take the Bears call if they dialed him up.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-came-calling/

So they have their choice of the last two Viking geriatric flame-outs? How appealing.

[mraynrand]

Bears would probably be better off dragging Warner or Marc Bulger out of retirement. Bulger was still working out in August, so he may actually be in reasonable shape. Warner looked fat in an NFLN commercial.