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[Upnorth]

Yes but that is like a short stop that boots one out of every ten plays. Newhouse is not consitent enough to be more than a struggling left tackle at this point.

Evan Detrich Smith was terrible in the run game.

So playing fairly well for a number of weeks and only having 'bad' games against Allen and JPP you would imply he is not playing up to snuf? That is a pretty steep grade curve you have. Newhouse is in the top 15 in the league so far from what I have seen.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Newhouse had two god-awful games in a row, he is not ok. The only difference between Newhouse and the Allen Barbre meltdown of a couple years ago is that AR is now a magician, able to cover for a leaky line.

Last week McGinn suggested the packers might have to consider trying Sherrod. I wish they would (especially since I am not responsible for consequences.)

All you Newhouse apologists should go fuck yourselves, except Upnorth who is still healing from birthing.

BTW, I have mostly been understanding of Newhouse's struggles, he has sometimes played well. Certainly he is a keeper. Maybe Sherrod has more size for position, longer arms.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Newhouse is in the top 15 in the league so far from what I have seen.

You and I are watching different games.


You're right, tho, Newhouse did fine against lions, it was Jason Allen where he melted down last, that's where McGinn raised the red flag.

I guess Newhouse is not Allen Barbre, but he's pretty bad.

[mraynrand]

Newhouse is not consitent enough to be more than a struggling left tackle at this point.

I agree. But he's only struggled it seems against the top DE talent, like Allen and Pierre-Paul. But that's who he's going to face as the LT. He's had better games.

His big challenges to come:

Melton, Peppers, Bears
Venden Bosch, Lions

Divisional: ? Cowboys DeMarcus Ware
NFC Championship
Will Smith, N.O
Aldon Smith LB, 49ers
Jarret Johnson, Suggs, Ravens
Harrison, Woodley, Steelers

I think he'll have problems with the 3-4 defenses. I'm scratching my head to think of a 3-4 defense he's handled. ?San Diego? They had nothing. Peppers normally won't line up over him. DeMarcus Ware and Will Smith won't be friendly.

[mraynrand]

Newhouse had two god-awful games in a row, he is not ok. The only difference between Newhouse and the Allen Barbre meltdown of a couple years ago is that AR is now a magician, able to cover for a leaky line.

Last week McGinn suggested the packers might have to consider trying Sherrod. I wish they would (especially since I am not responsible for consequences.)

All you Newhouse apologists should go fuck yourselves, except Upnorth who is still healing from birthing.

BTW, I have mostly been understanding of Newhouse's struggles, he has sometimes played well. Certainly he is a keeper. Maybe Sherrod has more size for position, longer arms.

You engage in strawmen with annoying routine. Who is apologizing for Newhouse? Saying he had a rough game isn't exactly making love to the guy. I'm interested in understanding just how bad it is. Last night I saw the third string DT for the Chargers basically do an impression of a revolving door or a matador. But a very good QB and offense was able to bail him out, much like AR does from Newhouse. however, Newhouse wasn't beaten like a rag doll, like the Charger LT.

Good teams tend to have good right defensive ends who get sacks, correct? Allen gets sacks, Will Smith gets sacks, DeMarcus Ware gets sacks. If they get one or two against the Packers, is that all that surprising? Does it mean Newhouse is garbage or just not that good. Engage in hyperbole if you wish, but do it with someone else. Oh, and go fuck yourself too. I know you enjoy it. For kicks use a cucumber instead of a carrot.

[mraynrand]

If newhouse level of play does not improve I doubt he will start next year, but for a backup asked to play lt for a team every defence gets jacked up playing he has done well. JPP did beat him, but it was not a beat down. Look forward to an upgrade, but Newhouse is playing at a level much better than most backups.

"I think Stubby really hates the idea of having to waste an option on offense by chipping or leaving a TE in the backfield. " -Mraynrand

I would think that against a hard charging D like NYG using a TE to chip then release could help a lot with teh big plays later in the game. Also if you get JPP thinking he is taking on two blocks it will change his first step which might help Newhouse set and get his hands in the right position. Mcginn and I believe PB (could be wrong) mentioned Newhouses hands need to rest quicker, that early assistance would help out.

Stubby doesn't like it because it limits his options. One of the reasons the Packer O is so tough for teams is that they have all those receivers coming from every angle. Chipping means you have to use a TE, and then only have him on a short route in the flat. Or having to keep a TE in to block. If your LT neutralized the RDE or OLB, the offense is at a considerable advantage (I know, I just pulled a Troy Aikman™ totally obvious statement®).

[pbmax]

Yes but that is like a short stop that boots one out of every ten plays. Newhouse is not consitent enough to be more than a struggling left tackle at this point.

Evan Detrich Smith was terrible in the run game.

He had two obvious whiffs (it was so bad I thought Wells might have been responsible) on runs to the right. McGinn dinged him for 3 bad runs, 2.5 pressures and no sacks.

[Harlan Huckleby]

McGinn dinged him for 3 bad runs, 2.5 pressures and no sacks.

stats like that are valuable because they make evaluations simpler and comparable, but they are so incomplete. I'm much more interested in whether McGinn says the guy sucked or not. The eyes tell the story.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You engage in strawmen with annoying routine. Who is apologizing for Newhouse?

lighten up

Engage in hyperbole if you wish, but do it with someone else.

man, you sound like Clint Eastwood. Maybe you should use the ignore feature, tough guy.

[mraynrand]

lighten up



man, you sound like Clint Eastwood. Maybe you should use the ignore feature, tough guy.

Go fuck yourself, you Clint Eastwood apologist.

[pbmax]

Go fuck yourself, you Clint Eastwood apologist.

Now that is something you do not see written very often.

[mraynrand]

Now that is something you do not see written very often.

I try to add something new and fresh every day.

[KYPack]

Newhouse had two god-awful games in a row, he is not ok. The only difference between Newhouse and the Allen Barbre meltdown of a couple years ago is that AR is now a magician, able to cover for a leaky line.

Last week McGinn suggested the packers might have to consider trying Sherrod. I wish they would (especially since I am not responsible for consequences.)

All you Newhouse apologists should go fuck yourselves, except Upnorth who is still healing from birthing.

BTW, I have mostly been understanding of Newhouse's struggles, he has sometimes played well. Certainly he is a keeper. Maybe Sherrod has more size for position, longer arms.

I was gonna jump you, but you covered some of this in a follow-up post. Newhouse had a rough day at the office. He's far from a solid LT, but he's not Barbre bad, either.

When Barbre fell apart, he showed major weaknesses and completely lost it. Barbre went flat footed and went into a shell. The only thing left to do was get him off the field. Newhouse got beat and made mistakes too and had a poor game. But the kid never gave up. Oh he got beat so bad on a couple plays, he was lost and shit. But, he battled all day, scrambling and hustling, trying to hang. He showed me he's got the spirit to try and make it.

After that big guy went out hurt for a few plays (Christ, where do the Giants get all these guys?) Newhouse redeemed himself and gave decent protection in that final drive. We had to chip and do some fancy pass pro stuff to help our kiddie line along, but MM and Arod lashed together an offense with a less than NFL caliber starting Oline.

I hope we get a 70% or so Sitton back for the play-offs. Our offensive brain trust can figure things out to cover for one kid over his head, but not two. Espec in the play-offs.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Newhouse isn't nearly as bad as Barbre. I don't know what game HH is watching. Didn't Barbre give up back-to-back 5 sack games? Toss in a boatload of pressures on top of that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

When Barbre fell apart, he showed major weaknesses and completely lost it. Barbre went flat footed and went into a shell. The only thing left to do was get him off the field. Newhouse got beat and made mistakes too and had a poor game. But the kid never gave up. Oh he got beat so bad on a couple plays, he was lost and shit. But, he battled all day, scrambling and hustling, trying to hang. He showed me he's got the spirit to try and make it.

Newhouse fell apart too. He lost his composure against Pierre-Paul and Allen in Barbre-like fashion. The fact that he didn't give up as many sacks is due to AR. It wasn't just a matter of a few bad plays, which is understandable against elites, Newhouse was on ice skates.

I pulled-back from equating Newhouse to Barbre because Newhouse has proven he can play the position with several decent games. Barbre had little agility.

Looking back, we might be in a better place now if Sherrod was allowed to compete strictly at LT, see how far he could go. Nutz was right. Clifton's old body really screwed the team, he stayed healthy just long enough to keep team from developing replacement. Well, maybe Newhouse would have beaten-out Sherrod at LT anyway, but I'd sure would have liked to have seen that competition.