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  • #46
    I fail to understand why a last second 3 point victory where the alternative was overtime is a "near defeat". I must be missing something, other than the fact we didn't win by 15 which has been the typical pattern this season.

    I'm worried about all the games. I'm more worried about a mulligan at this point than a specfic team, but doesn't the team deserve a little more confidence than this out of us?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by retailguy View Post
      I fail to understand why a last second 3 point victory where the alternative was overtime is a "near defeat". I must be missing something, other than the fact we didn't win by 15 which has been the typical pattern this season.

      I'm worried about all the games. I'm more worried about a mulligan at this point than a specfic team, but doesn't the team deserve a little more confidence than this out of us?
      yes. good post. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. I miss Desmond Bishop.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #48
        Originally posted by retailguy View Post
        I fail to understand why a last second 3 point victory where the alternative was overtime is a "near defeat". I must be missing something, other than the fact we didn't win by 15 which has been the typical pattern this season.

        I'm worried about all the games. I'm more worried about a mulligan at this point than a specfic team, but doesn't the team deserve a little more confidence than this out of us?
        I think we're guarding our hearts so to speak. Such high expectations, such a letdown possible.... preparing for heartache, ready to celebrate if necessary.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
          1. Did the Giants Expose us as a very beatable team on Sunday

          Remember a few years ago when Hoody Genius was running the show ? The Giants came in towards the end of the year, and exposed some of their weaknesses and then took them down in the Super Bowl ?

          Anybody get a bit of that same feeling on Sunday ? Our secondary and lack of pass rush was abused. I'm more worried after the Giants game than I have been in a while.

          Thoughts ?


          2. What, if any teams would you be afraid of in terms of knocking the Pack out in the playoffs ?

          Breaking things down right now, against a good team our offense in nearly unstoppable but I'm not sure our defense can stop a great offense. With that being said, right off the top of my head I see three teams I do not want to play.


          NO Saints - Equal or better weapons than the Giants
          Da Steelers- A maturing WR core that we'd have problems with along with the best D out of the three picks
          Da Patriots- A team that might be able to take each jab we bring and throw one right back at us just as hard. If this game were next week in New England with good weather the over under might be 84 points.

          Who, if anybody, do you fear and why ?
          I just wanted to say for the record that this is more than two questions I think I've learned to take each game as it comes. Sure I get nervous and worried beforehand, but I don't think there's anyone who can beat us unless we let them. And that is usually my fear.
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #50
            Originally posted by retailguy View Post
            I fail to understand why a last second 3 point victory where the alternative was overtime is a "near defeat". I must be missing something, other than the fact we didn't win by 15 which has been the typical pattern this season.

            I'm worried about all the games. I'm more worried about a mulligan at this point than a specfic team, but doesn't the team deserve a little more confidence than this out of us?
            I don't understand why that was a near defeat either. If we were BEHIND with one minute to go, then maybe...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
              I just wanted to say for the record that this is more than two questions I think I've learned to take each game as it comes. Sure I get nervous and worried beforehand, but I don't think there's anyone who can beat us unless we let them. And that is usually my fear.
              I hear ya. If we don't beat ourselves with penalties and turnovers we're damn hard to beat. But that's the thing, we can't mess up because our defense isn't all that stellar especially if we don't get turnovers.

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              • #52
                this defense lives and dies off the turnover. RIght now they aren't capable of stopping a team like the Saints. So any rematch w/ them is going to go down to the wire..again...and a battle to see who can turn it over the least.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  1. Did the Giants Expose us as a very beatable team on Sunday

                  Remember a few years ago when Hoody Genius was running the show ? The Giants came in towards the end of the year, and exposed some of their weaknesses and then took them down in the Super Bowl ?

                  Anybody get a bit of that same feeling on Sunday ? Our secondary and lack of pass rush was abused. I'm more worried after the Giants game than I have been in a while.

                  Thoughts ?


                  2. What, if any teams would you be afraid of in terms of knocking the Pack out in the playoffs ?

                  Breaking things down right now, against a good team our offense in nearly unstoppable but I'm not sure our defense can stop a great offense. With that being said, right off the top of my head I see three teams I do not want to play.


                  NO Saints - Equal or better weapons than the Giants
                  Da Steelers- A maturing WR core that we'd have problems with along with the best D out of the three picks
                  Da Patriots- A team that might be able to take each jab we bring and throw one right back at us just as hard. If this game were next week in New England with good weather the over under might be 84 points.

                  Who, if anybody, do you fear and why ?
                  I know I'm late to the game when it's three tabs late, but I'll answer none-the-less.

                  1. The Giants did expose how to beat us. You have to get serious pressure with 4 linemen and drop 7 back into coverage. Oh, and they have to be great at coverage or they have to hope that all the recievers drop a ton of balls. Oh, and they have to score 40 points. Yeah. That's the tried and true way to beat the pack. It's also a sure fire way to beat every other team in the NFL. We got the Giants playing at their absolute best and we still won.

                  2. Any team can beat us. Anything can happen. The #6 seed went and won it all yesteryear. Aaron Rodgers can throw 3 interceptions to 1 touchdown with a 45% completion rate. It's not likely, but if it does, we're done. Out. Once the playoffs hit, you can't overlook any team, because any team can knock you out. Just ask the Saints when they went up against the only team to get into the playoffs with a loosing record and lost. The Saints. Think about that.
                  - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                  • #54
                    49ers should scare you. With their run game, they could eat up a lot of clock against us and keep our offense off the field...especially in January in Lambeau. I'd rather play the 49ers in SF.

                    The only teams that scare me are the ones capable of keeping our offense off the field and wearing down our defense's ability to make plays. Baltimore and 49ers are most likely to topple the Packers.
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                      49ers should scare you. With their run game, they could eat up a lot of clock against us and keep our offense off the field...especially in January in Lambeau. I'd rather play the 49ers in SF.

                      The only teams that scare me are the ones capable of keeping our offense off the field and wearing down our defense's ability to make plays. Baltimore and 49ers are most likely to topple the Packers.
                      I'm still not convinced that th Niners aren't this year's Falcons.
                      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                        I'm still not convinced that th Niners aren't this year's Falcons.
                        Easy schedule. Run-first offense. Built to consistently beat up lesser teams, but just not explosive enough to hang with the most explosive teams in the league.

                        Now maybe Alex Smith ends up being a lot more of a QB than I'm giving him credit for and then I end up wrong. Forcing multiple TOs is the only way to beat the Packers IMO... could they do it? Mmmm... maybe one.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          McGinn on O Line:

                          He gives Newhouse credit/blame for 2 bad runs, 1.5 sacks, 3 knockdowns and 2 hurries with one sack nullified on penalty. EDS was worse in the run game with 3 bad runs and 2.5 pressures, though no sacks.
                          Marshmellow Newhouse is a nice utility guy but not a starter at this point.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #58
                            Is it too late in the year, with too much at stake, to ask how Sherrod looks?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by mission View Post
                              Is it too late in the year, with too much at stake, to ask how Sherrod looks?
                              Went digging earlier this week for info. Not much beside his stint when Cliffy and Bulaga were down. He did make the active roster after Bulaga got hurt, but that was a numbers thing. I have to say, that he looked good in pass pro after a shaky start, but it was a very limited stint. Otherwise, very little info.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by mission View Post
                                Is it too late in the year, with too much at stake, to ask how Sherrod looks?

                                Yes

                                I think he's a nice prospect but weak. I think GB was licking their chops when it appeared either Ingram or Carimi might fall to them. Then they both got snapped up and GB got a guy who might be a good year of getting stronger and more polished before he's serviceable....which is why he fell to where he did. He was too good of prospect to pass up but needs to develop or the pick might look like John Michels. Hopefully I'm putting a whammy on the dude and he'll turn into a star
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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