DEFENSIVE PLAYERS DISAPPOINTING ? Your list .......

[gbgary]

I predict this thread will become a mea cupla thread.

wasn't she in The Godfather III?

[Bretsky]

If Neal continues to make progress, then I predict this thread will become a mea cupla thread.

Not promising anything, just saying ....

been a bit too ez around here so I'm stirring some shit up
I'm hopeful this it's a mea culpa
For the record I was always "ok" with the Sherrod pick.
Not at all surprised he's not ready because most scouts noted he needed development but was a great future prospect if he does develop.

I've always liked Neal more than most. Dude has more ability in his pinky fingers than all of sweet Justine Sallymae Harrell

[pbmax]

been a bit too ez around here so I'm stirring some shit up
I'm hopeful this it's a mea culpa
For the record I was always "ok" with the Sherrod pick.
Not at all surprised he's not ready because most scouts noted he needed development but was a great future prospect if he does develop.

I've always liked Neal more than most. Dude has more ability in his pinky fingers than all of sweet Justine Sallymae Harrell

You're doing good B.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It's hard to put Raji on the list; his snap count is insanely high this year to our lack of quality DL.

I'm pretty sure he's played fewer snaps than last year. I know they've reduced his snaps the last few games. I think the different approach is an indication of how the coaches feel Raji is playing. They're trying something different to see if he'll snap out of his funk. I don't think he's playing bad, but I was expecting All Pro caliber play out of him. I thought he was close to that at the end of last year.

[Bretsky]

I'm pretty sure he's played fewer snaps than last year. I know they've reduced his snaps the last few games. I think the different approach is an indication of how the coaches feel Raji is playing. They're trying something different to see if he'll snap out of his funk. I don't think he's playing bad, but I was expecting All Pro caliber play out of him. I thought he was close to that at the end of last year.

There was an article two or three games ago that he was on an insane pace and they feared they were wearing him down and/or it was hurting his production. They were going to make it a focus to draw the snaps back

[HarveyWallbangers]

There was an article two or three games ago that he was on an insane pace and they feared they were wearing him down and/or it was hurting his production. They were going to make it a focus to draw the snaps back

He couldn't play much more than he did last year. I think it was over 90% of the defensive snaps. To me, it sounds like the coaches are a bit disappointed in Raji and are trying to keep him fresh to see if that will give him a boost (grasping at straws).

[RashanGary]

Burnett

[Patler]

Based on my own expectations for them, to greater and lesser degrees, I am disappointed in the performances of:
Raji, Neal, Wilson
Hawk, Matthews, Zombo, Jones
Williams, Shields, Woodson, House
Peprah


Based on the expectations I had for them, I am not disappointed in the performances of:
Pickett, Wynn, Green
Bishop, Walden, Smith, Francois, So'oto, Lattimore
Bush, Lee
Burnett, Jennings

[Patler]

It's hard to put Raji on the list; his snap count is insanely high this year to our lack of quality DL.

I'm pretty sure he's played fewer snaps than last year. I know they've reduced his snaps the last few games. I think the different approach is an indication of how the coaches feel Raji is playing. They're trying something different to see if he'll snap out of his funk. I don't think he's playing bad, but I was expecting All Pro caliber play out of him. I thought he was close to that at the end of last year.

There was an article two or three games ago that he was on an insane pace and they feared they were wearing him down and/or it was hurting his production. They were going to make it a focus to draw the snaps back

He couldn't play much more than he did last year. I think it was over 90% of the defensive snaps. To me, it sounds like the coaches are a bit disappointed in Raji and are trying to keep him fresh to see if that will give him a boost (grasping at straws).

Per the JS, Raji played 85% of the defensive downs in 2010, and was playing just over 88% until a few weeks ago when the conscious effort was made to play him less. While the 3% increase would have amounted to an increase of about to 2 plays per game based on 2010 performance, as we all know the defense is playng more poorly this year, and is playing more snaps per game than last year.

So, while Raji's participation level was up only 3%, at the time he was actually playing almost 6 plays per game more in 2011 than he did in 2010.

[Bossman641]

Raji, Wilson, Hawk, Tramon, Shields, Peprah

On the flip side, who has exceeded my expectations? Both Wynn and Burnett early in the year but they have since fallen off.

[pittstang5]

Jarrett Bush when he's playing defense. (Special Teams he's been decent).

Shields was recently added to my $h!t list. That touchdown he gave up late in the fourth quarter against the Giants really bugged me. All he had to do was turn around and he could have intercepted or at least knocked the ball down. I think it was the Tampa Bay game where he was doing the same thing...not getting his head around.

[Brandon494]

Bush? You actually expected him to play well this year?

[pbmax]

Raji also had a position switch again, but McGinn has not consistently detailed how many "Eagle" snaps they have played.

[RashanGary]

The DL have said many times this year, they're not rushing up field at the QB very often so you can't gauge pass rush. The Packers are playing far less 8 in the box football. The DL are both 2 gappers right now, with very little leeway to turn it up.

This week Raji was let loose a little. He had a lot of pressure.

It's a different defense this year. The DL have less freedom.

I hear it said quite a bit from the football guys. . . . there is more to it than numbers and impressions from outside. None of us knows what a guy is being asked to do. I learned that again with my Finley hate.


My hunch. . . . Raji is just fan-fuckin-tastic. He's a victim of piss poor safety play that's taking a defender away from run support and forcing him to be a "stay square - 2 gapper" on most of his snaps.

[Upnorth]

On defence it is every LB except Mathews, Raji, Sheilds and Peprah, and bush as an after thought (I dont really think of him as a defensive player anymore which is sad).
On Offence it is Lang, Sherrod, Jones, Finley, Grant, Starks and Greene.

Not saying any of these players are sh@tty (well some are) just some had very high expectations.