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    If the Packers went 19-0 and Rodgers never played another game

    Would he go to the HOF based on 19-0, three years of dominance, two superbowl victories, an MVP and at least one SB MVP?

    Or is it a must that you put in 10 years of football?


    The kind of guy he is (people would want to vote him in. Plus, him not playing would mean there was some sort of bad injury, again people would want to give him a shot)
    19-0 (the memory would stick in voters heads forever)
    Best QB in football for at least one year (dominance)
    High profile coming out of college. High profile following HOF QB. High profile, dominating.


    I don't know. . . . . As much as he's only had a few years, he's edging close to doing some things no QB has ever done. He'd be on that edge I think . . . .
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    I don't think that 4 years, with 1 year as the best QB in the NFL, would be enough. I don't know if you need 10 years, but you need more than 4.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
      Would he go to the HOF based on 19-0, three years of dominance, two superbowl victories, an MVP and at least one SB MVP?
      No.

      Or is it a must that you put in 10 years of football?
      Yes. He would not even get nominated. He has prolly already earned a place in the Packers HOF, though, just for how he handled the tranistion.

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      • #4
        No chance. Too short a time. And Bob Griese won one MVP award in 1971, another in 1977 ( I think there were several this year) though no Super Bowl MVP, and was part of an undefeated season. It took Bob a decade to get in to the HOF.

        While Rodgers achievements would look good, the fact that the most direct parallel is Griese, is not going to help.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #5
          He needs a few more years. You don't need the longevity that you need in baseball, but I'd say you need a good 7 year run or so.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #6
            Rodgers must confront Brady, only then a HOFer will he be.
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            • #7
              Some say Kurt Warner will have a hard time getting in. Some perspective.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sheepshead View Post
                Some say Kurt Warner will have a hard time getting in. Some perspective.
                If Kurt were a first round pick and college stud there would be no such discussion whatsoever. His road to dominance is being held against him.

                Seriously, MVP's, superbowl titles with multiple teams. What does a guy have to do....oh yea, be picked in the first round and not bag groceries.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  If Kurt were a first round pick and college stud there would be no such discussion whatsoever. His road to dominance is being held against him.

                  Seriously, MVP's, superbowl titles with multiple teams. What does a guy have to do....oh yea, be picked in the first round and not bag groceries.
                  Completely disagree. Warner's Rags to riches (twice) story helps him. His problem is that during half of his career, he wasn't even a full time starter. He had 6 very good seasons. Rags to riches stories are great, but Warner may have spent too much time wearing rags to be considered a Hall Of Famer.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sheepshead View Post
                    Some say Kurt Warner will have a hard time getting in. Some perspective.
                    Here's some perspective for you:

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                    • #11
                      Warner won't be a first ballot Hall of Famer, but I think he'll get in eventually.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Completely disagree. Warner's Rags to riches (twice) story helps him. His problem is that during half of his career, he wasn't even a full time starter. He had 6 very good seasons. Rags to riches stories are great, but Warner may have spent too much time wearing rags to be considered a Hall Of Famer.
                        He had some down time in the middle. After he was hurt in St-Louis and replaced by Bulger, he was a lame duck QB to Eli in NYG. He got off to a bad start in Arizona, and was replaced by Josh McCown(!) then became a lame duck again, this time going back and forth with Leinart for 2 seasons.

                        That's why he won't be viewed well. For whatever reasons, injuries, situation, etc he was not a starter for periods of his career. He was replaced 3-4 times (Bulger, Eli, McCown and Leinart all took his starting job from him at one point or another. The voters won't like that.
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                        • #13
                          Remember it is the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Really Good for a Couple of Seasons.

                          How well does Warner compare to Brady, Manning, Marino, Starr, etc. I don't think he belongs with that group at all, so he should not be in the Hall. If Rodgers finish off a perfect season and then retires, he doesn't belong with that group.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            Rodgers must confront Brady, only then a HOFer will he be.
                            Reverse talk. Yoda, is that you? Is Brady secretly Rodger's father?

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                            • #15
                              Warner had several great seasons, but not a great career. He didn't do it consistently enough for me to elect him into the hall.

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