Aaron Rodgers Death Spiral of Declining Poor Performances

[Pugger]

I suppose he is cocky but is this the same as arrogant? Maybe we are confusing the two...

[SkinBasket]

All this talk of cockiness is making me hungry.

[Bossman641]

Rodgers isn't cocky, he's confident. Big difference.

[Tarlam!]

Rodgers isn't cocky, he's confident. Big difference.

And he is certainly not arrogant, judging from the public appearances I've seen.

[Kiwon]

Aaron Rodgers -- "I feel like my stance and my desire has always been to follow a quote from St. Francis of Assisi, who said, "Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words." So, basically, I'm not an over-the-top or an in-your-face kind of guy with my faith."

Thanks for digging this up, Joe. Someone should foward this quote to Denver, Colorado.

Hmm.......Would you say the same thing if Reggie White were alive and playing well for the Packers?

[MJZiggy]

Aaron Rodgers -- "I feel like my stance and my desire has always been to follow a quote from St. Francis of Assisi, who said, "Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words." So, basically, I'm not an over-the-top or an in-your-face kind of guy with my faith."



Hmm.......Would you say the same thing if Reggie White were alive and playing well for the Packers?

I think we all did at the time...

[Joemailman]

Reggie did turn people off with some of what he said and did. I remember reading that Leroy Butler played an important role with some of the players who couldn't relate to Reggie.

[Kiwon]

I think we all did at the time...

I think you'll have to speak for yourself. I didn't, for one, and neither did most evangelical believing fans or players who take their faith seriously. Reggie was not articulate, but he was sincere. And he was generally right, including on the fallacy of comparing Blacks to gays.

The word "Gospel" means "Good News" and it's meant to be shared. And there are pro athletes like Tebow and Reggie White that understand God has blessed them with a platform to encourage others and inspire hope as they obey Jesus' commands of Matthew 28:18-20 and Luke 24:45-47, for example.

[Tarlam!]

Hmm.......Would you say the same thing if Reggie White were alive and playing well for the Packers?

Yes. IIRC, Reggie was a Minister. Tebow is the son of a Minister.

[Tarlam!]

And there are pro athletes like Tebow and Reggie White that understand God has blessed them with a platform to encourage others

Interesting. So, if, say, Aaron Rodgers was a devil worshipper, believing he has been blessed by Lucifer and he used his stardom as a platform to inspire black magic, you'd be OK with that?

[Kiwon]

Interesting. So, if, say, Aaron Rodgers was a devil worshipper, believing he has been blessed by Lucifer and he used his stardom as a platform to inspire black magic, you'd be OK with that?

Free Speech is a core value of American society. Besides, he'd be a hit with some folks down in New Orleans and Miami.

That's a good point, however. How come the devil worshippers in the news are child molesters, child killers, serial killers, necrophilists, and the sort? Where is the star athlete publicly worshipping Satan before the cameras? Why isn't there a whole group of athletes that worship Satan gathering on the field and praying after games like the Christian athletes do?

Just because they are both belief systems, it's naive to try to morally equate Satanism to Christianity.

[Tarlam!]

Just because they are both belief systems, it's naive to try to morally equate Satanism to Christianity.

I didn't.

But your reply avoided answering my question completely. What you wrote is an attack on Satanism. Whether or not you firmly stand behind the notion of freedom of speech is also missing; only, that it is a core value etc. Whether or not you would admire Rodgers if he were an open and vocal Satanist remains a riddle.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you.

I am, however, suggesting that Christians live with double standards. I believe you to be such a person, Kiwon. Frankly, I believe, if Rodgers were a vocal Satanist, you would drop any ties to the Team.

Why is all of this important? It isn't. But more people have been put to death for religious reasons during the millenia than any other "purpose". And Christians, Kiwon, have been amongst history's biggest butchers. But you're well read. You already knew that.

[Zool]

That's a good point, however. How come the devil worshippers in the news are child molesters.

I guess I thought Sandusky was a man of faith?

[pbmax]

Aaron Rodgers -- "I feel like my stance and my desire has always been to follow a quote from St. Francis of Assisi, who said, "Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words." So, basically, I'm not an over-the-top or an in-your-face kind of guy with my faith."



Hmm.......Would you say the same thing if Reggie White were alive and playing well for the Packers?

Reggie was definitely more in the Tebow tradition, or should that be the other way around?

Of course, Reggie was never that popular in Florida.

[Kiwon]

And Christians, Kiwon, have been amongst history's biggest butchers. But you're well read. You already knew that.

Well if Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, the Hutus of Rwanda, and Kim, Jong-Il were Christians then I might be inclined to agree with you.