Cap & Trade

[ThunderDan]

It's all about perceived value. Look at the Seachickens and Whitehurst.

[Brandon494]

Are Joe Namath and Y.A. Tittle "system QBs"? Since those are the only guys in NFL history to throw for 480+ and 6+ TDs, other than Matt Flynn that is.

Listen Flynn has talent and had a hell of a game but one game doesn't make a player. I've seen comments about us getting a 1st round pick and Flynn being a top 8 QB in the league after todays game. I'm not going to overreact after one game, the guy had a career QB rating of 68 with more INTs then TDs before todays game.

[ThunderDan]

Listen Flynn has talent and had a hell of a game but one game doesn't make a player. I've seen comments about us getting a 1st round pick and Flynn being a top 8 QB in the league after todays game. I'm not going to overreact after one game, the guy had a career QB rating of 68 with more INTs then TDs before todays game.

I agree with the thought. The reality is you have a QB who has started 2 games and played well in both. Some GM will think, wow this is the guy. I don't understand it but it happens all of the time. Kolb, Whitehurst are prime examples.

[ND72]

Whatever contract Flynn signs with the team that acquires him, can't make that $15m guaranteed disappear, it has to actually be paid. The most you can do is restructure it.

Yup, they make it $15 mil guaranteed money over 5 years, not too difficult to do, as it has happened many times.

[Tarlam!]

People forget Flynn won a national title in college! And anyone able to throw 6 TD's in an NFL game against that front seven, being protected by a make shift O-lone has to be pretty decent. If that were Rodgers in his second start getting beaten up so badly back there today and throwing 6 for 1-480 yards, we'd all be pointing that out and singing Kum Ba Ya.

He nealry beat the Brady Bunch at their place in his first start. He's got upside, that much is obvious to even my untrained eye.

[pbmax]

Yup, they make it $15 mil guaranteed money over 5 years, not too difficult to do, as it has happened many times.

At QB though? It happened to Cassell. Kolb was under contract and not subject to the tags. Schaub was traded before his fourth year and I suspect as a 3rd round pick he had one more year on his rookie deal. Nobody else comes to mind immediately.

[Patler]

Yup, they make it $15 mil guaranteed money over 5 years, not too difficult to do, as it has happened many times.

Why would Flynn sign a 5 year contract with only $15 million guaranteed, when he would already have a guaranteed $15 million contract for just one year? It wouldn't make much sense.

To make it acceptable to both the team and the player it has to get the per year cost down for the team and increase the guarantee for the player. The team will have to guarantee more than just the value of the franchise contract, and Flynn will have to commit more than just one season. Cassel went from 1 year for $14.5 million guaranteed to 6 years for $63 Million with $28 million guaranteed.

[retailguy]

Listen Flynn has talent and had a hell of a game but one game doesn't make a player. I've seen comments about us getting a 1st round pick and Flynn being a top 8 QB in the league after todays game. I'm not going to overreact after one game, the guy had a career QB rating of 68 with more INTs then TDs before todays game.

C'mon Brandon. The "top 8" QB comment was in jest related to the White Partial. You know that. Most rational people aren't over reacting to one game either. But in the clutch, the guys played two really good games. I'm with the mob in thinking IF we could get something for him we should. I don't think it's more complicated than that. Chill, and by the way, take the two middle fingers down. You're better than that, I think.

[Tarlam!]

Chill, and by the way, take the two middle fingers down. You're better than that, I think.

Must.......resist.....urge....to........

[red]

People forget Flynn won a national title in college! And anyone able to throw 6 TD's in an NFL game against that front seven, being protected by a make shift O-lone has to be pretty decent. If that were Rodgers in his second start getting beaten up so badly back there today and throwing 6 for 1-480 yards, we'd all be pointing that out and singing Kum Ba Ya.

He nealry beat the Brady Bunch at their place in his first start. He's got upside, that much is obvious to even my untrained eye.

team record in yards and TD's, against a playoff team going all out, with a pretty damn good defense, and in less then ideal conditions in january in green bay. i don't know if it showed on the tv, but just north of green bay here, it was windy as hell

nothing about that screams fluke to me

[red]

Why would Flynn sign a 5 year contract with only $15 million guaranteed, when he would already have a guaranteed $15 million contract for just one year? It wouldn't make much sense.

To make it acceptable to both the team and the player it has to get the per year cost down for the team and increase the guarantee for the player. The team will have to guarantee more than just the value of the franchise contract, and Flynn will have to commit more than just one season. Cassel went from 1 year for $14.5 million guaranteed to 6 years for $63 Million with $28 million guaranteed.

yes, but flynns new team is gonna pay him way more then 15 million no matter if he has the tag or not. so that 15 million franchise tag is really a moot point IMO. just a way for us to control where he goes and get some picks for him

[King Friday]

Listen Flynn has talent and had a hell of a game but one game doesn't make a player. I've seen comments about us getting a 1st round pick and Flynn being a top 8 QB in the league after todays game. I'm not going to overreact after one game, the guy had a career QB rating of 68 with more INTs then TDs before todays game.

In his last two real starts, he has been extremely impressive.

You can't base a backup on his QB rating. The bulk of his duty is mop up at the end of games where they run-run-pass on 3rd and 8. Tough to build a QB rating under those conditions. He looked great in a start last season on the road in New England. He looked strong this preseason. He looked great again today against a motivated Lions team. Speaks to McCarthy's ability to coach QBs.

I said Flynn was top 8, although that was mostly tongue in cheek. However, he clearly is a starting caliber QB...and there are probably only about 20-25 of those in the NFL right now. So it ain't that far from the truth. Yeah, he won't look as good wherever he goes with less talent around him and a different coaching staff...but he's a better choice to lead your team right now than any QB in the draft outside of perhaps Luck.

[mmmdk]

Franchise Matt Flynn or he may become a Vikings QB...

[Pugger]

Franchise Matt Flynn or he may become a Vikings QB...

Hopefully he's smarter than that! Do you think MN would give up on Ponder?

[mmmdk]

Hopefully he's smarter than that! Do you think MN would give up on Ponder?

One has to...Ponder!