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  • #76
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Skip Bayless is making this argument and all of Packer Twitter world is now fighting an imaginary battle over it. What Skip does not care to mention, that I expect most NFL writers to understand, is that the Packers trailed nearly the entire game (even in the vaunted 4th quarter) and that puts a carrot in front of the passing game donkey.

    But Skip is into fake confrontation, so to acknowledge the subtlety, for him, is counter-productive.

    Bayless is a moron and thats why I can't watch espn anymore. Very little substance to any argument. Its like losing one game to the chiefs and everyone is suddenly writing off a team thats lost once all year. People must forget how Flynn looked against the lions last year.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by billy_oliver880 View Post
      Anyone else hearing that people are calling rodgers a system qb and that flynn is better....? I mean I like what flynn has done but are you kidding me. Of course these were the rodgers nay sayers since that other guy left.
      Originally posted by ND72 View Post
      This system bullshit pisses me off. That means Bree's and Brady are system guys too then.
      I had to go Wiki the term system QB and they provide a good description here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_quarterback

      What is interesting is that our very own Graham Harrell is listed as such!!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
        I had to go Wiki the term system QB and they provide a good description here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_quarterback

        What is interesting is that our very own Graham Harrell is listed as such!!
        My favorite Colt Brennan! Loved that guy in college.
        "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
          I had to go Wiki the term system QB and they provide a good description here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_quarterback

          What is interesting is that our very own Graham Harrell is listed as such!!
          There were those who doubted Rodgers coming out of college and rated him a system QB. Specifically, a Jeff Tedford system QB like Trent Dilfer, David Carr, Akili Smith, Joey Harrington and Kyle Boller.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            There were those who doubted Rodgers coming out of college and rated him a system QB. Specifically, a Jeff Tedford system QB like Trent Dilfer, David Carr, Akili Smith, Joey Harrington and Kyle Boller.
            Well, if he's not listed as such on Wiki, he can't be one!

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
              Well, if he's not listed as such on Wiki, he can't be one!
              He's definitely blown the curve.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
                I had to go Wiki the term system QB and they provide a good description here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_quarterback

                What is interesting is that our very own Graham Harrell is listed as such!!
                I liked the article, but how did it fail to mention the Tedford quarterbacks?

                And really, a system quarterback is a very successful college quarterback that--for whatever reason--has little success as a professional.

                Skip Clueless is a system journalist. He was better as a Viking beat hack.
                [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
                  Well, if he's not listed as such on Wiki, he can't be one!

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                  • #84
                    So we just have a bunch of system qbs.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by swede View Post
                      Skip Clueless is a system journalist. He was better as a Viking beat hack.
                      is that after he was a cowboy beat hack?

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                      • #86
                        " concerns he may be" is not a resounding declaration Billy. In fact, he was their #1 mock pick.

                        If he was a system QB, then he wasn't after taking all those sacks in his first year as a starter! That system wasn't workin' real great!

                        Ideally, the HC and OC put a plan on the field that is plug and play, then have plays that a vet can handle according to his competence level, no? IIRC, the Broncos had a few plays for Tebow because he really is a system QB and more for Orton, cause he was the starter.

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                        • #87
                          Did the new cba get rid of the transition tag?
                          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                          George Orwell

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                            Did the new cba get rid of the transition tag?
                            I don't know, but I was looking for that info yesterday and discovered that the transition tag just offers the original team a chance to match any offer the player receives, but doesn't get the team any kind of a draft pick if they don't match the offer. I thought there used to be some kind of tag that would get you a second or third round pick if another team signs the player, but I couldn't find any info on one. I guess I either remember wrong or they got rid of it a long time ago. Maybe I'm thinking of something with restricted free agents.

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                            • #89
                              How do the compensatory picks work under the new CBA?

                              It seems Flynn is going to get a lucrative contract. In the past, that would have turned into a 3rd round pick, the same as we got with Kampman. Cassel only fetched a 2nd round pick, is it worth the risk of franchising him to move up one round?
                              --
                              Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by ND72 View Post
                                This system bullshit pisses me off. That means Bree's and Brady are system guys too then.
                                People saying "system QB" in the NFL are idiots, or at least they don't understand what the "system quarterback" criticism means.

                                Saying a guy is a "System Quarterback" is a critique of *college* QBs making the transition to the NFL, saying that they won't be able to carry over their performance to the professional level.

                                In the NFL there's no higher echelon of football you will be promoted to. If you have a system that makes your quarterback successful, that means you have devised a good offense. This is what you want to do. If you're devising your offense to make things hard on your QB, that's a mistake.
                                </delurk>

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