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    another article to share and lace into
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    The Packers have shown all year that they can give up yards but keep points allowed at a reasonable level if they limit the big plays. In 10 of their 16 games, the Packers have given up 23 points or less. Only in the loss to KC did they fail to score that many. There have actually been only 4 games this year where the Packers needed to score more than 30 points to win. The New Orleans game was the only one in which the Packers defense was as healthy as it is now. The one game the Packers lost was the one game is which their offense was held under 20, and their defense produced no turnovers. If the Giants can produce those 2 things they will win. The odds would appeat to be against it though.
    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      If defenses win championships then NE and NO are in trouble too.

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      • #4
        The problem is that the playoffs are different. Defenses shut down big-time offenses. Remember New England's nearly-undefeated season? The Jints stopped Brady and Company.

        I'm concerned about the Packer defense. Greatly. It's harder to manufacture points in the playoffs than it is during the regular season.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #5
          Pittsburgh's great D didn't help them from getting TBWNED
          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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          • #6
            But your argument suggests that a good defense doesn't matter - but to win a SB you've got to have offense and defense.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              But your argument suggests that a good defense doesn't matter - but to win a SB you've got to have offense and defense.
              A lot depends on how you judge the Packers defense:

              Yardage: 32nd
              Points Allowed: 19th.
              Passer rating allowed: 9th
              Turnovers caused: 1st
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                The problem is that the playoffs are different. Defenses shut down big-time offenses. Remember New England's nearly-undefeated season? The Jints stopped Brady and Company.

                I'm concerned about the Packer defense. Greatly. It's harder to manufacture points in the playoffs than it is during the regular season.
                Offense's also light up big-time defenses.

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                • #9
                  It's not the damn Steel Curtain but it should suffice. Guys are healthy and determined to prove the doubters wrong. Plus the Dom has been saving the best for last.
                  C.H.U.D.

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                  • #10
                    Top 10 scoring Ds:

                    Code:
                    1	Pittsburgh	4348	271.8	2751	171.9	1597	99.8	227	14.2
                    2	San Francisco	4930	308.1	3694	230.9	1236	77.3	229	14.3
                    3	Baltimore	4622	288.9	3140	196.3	1482	92.6	266	16.6
                    4	Houston	        4571	285.7	3035	189.7	1536	96.0	278	17.4
                    5	Cleveland	5318	332.4	2959	184.9	2359	147.4	307	19.2
                    6	Miami	        5522	345.1	3992	249.5	1530	95.6	313	19.6
                    7	Seattle	        5315	332.2	3518	219.9	1797	112.3	315	19.7
                    8	Tennessee	5682	355.1	3629	226.8	2053	128.3	317	19.8
                    9	Cincinnati	5060	316.3	3385	211.6	1675	104.7	323	20.2
                    10	Philadelphia	5198	324.9	3397	212.3	1801	112.6	328	20.5
                    I think defensive statistics are a bit harder to sort out this year. The AFC West played the NFC West and the AFC South this year. The Texans seem to be the only team out of that group with anything of note on offense, and that was before Schaub went down. Ben's been hurt and bad, Manning's been out, Dalton's good but very green, etc

                    The AFC South did play the NFC South this year and the magical Texans with that super-stud D gave up 40 points to NO and 28 to CAR and went 2-2 against a pretty good div. Green Bay only gave up 34 and 23 to those teams and was 4-0 against the same division.

                    I'm not saying that Green Bay's defense is as good because I don't believe that, but I think this year's "great" defenses have mostly benefited from weaker opponents. The one team that might qualify as a truly great D is San Fransisco and Saturday will be telling there.
                    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      A lot depends on how you judge the Packers defense:

                      Yardage: 32nd
                      Points Allowed: 19th.
                      Passer rating allowed: 9th
                      Turnovers caused: 1st
                      No wonder fans are like a dysfunctional family this year...

                      Mom: It would be a minor miracle if someone in this family would pick up their socks. The Packers D-line will get a sack on a 3 man front before that happens.

                      Son: Hey! I picked up my socks last week and the D backs NEVER get any credit for leading the league in interceptions. All we hear about is "blown coverage" this and "miscommunication" that!

                      Dad: Don't you dare talk to your mother like that! And if we weren't last in the league in yardage I'd...

                      Sister: You'd what? Raise my allowance? I'm getting an A+ in chemistry and it's no big deal, but let the Packers be average in points allowed and it's "Oh my God...They're so awesome!" I'm sick of all of you! (pound pound pound pound pound SLAM!)

                      pause

                      Dad: (mutters) We are 15 and 1 for crying out loud.
                      [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                      • #12
                        LOL. Damn funny teacher.
                        C.H.U.D.

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                        • #13
                          I disagree with the notion that defense wins championships in today's game. BIG PLAYS win games. The teams that makes the big plays at the crucial moments in the game will probably win it all. That was true of Green Bay last year...the Saints the year before that...the Giants before that.

                          The Packers have plenty of playmakers on both sides of the ball. If they win another title, it will be due to great plays from those guys as well as a couple of lesser known guys stepping up once in awhile as well.
                          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                          • #14
                            Funny, I always thought it was outscoring your opponents that won championships. Damn. I guess I was wrong.
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              A lot depends on how you judge the Packers defense:

                              Yardage: 32nd
                              Points Allowed: 19th.
                              Passer rating allowed: 9th
                              Turnovers caused: 1st
                              that's a lot more telling than the yards.

                              GO PACK!!

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