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USA TODAY "If Defense wins Championships, Pack could be in Trouble"
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERTags: None
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The Packers have shown all year that they can give up yards but keep points allowed at a reasonable level if they limit the big plays. In 10 of their 16 games, the Packers have given up 23 points or less. Only in the loss to KC did they fail to score that many. There have actually been only 4 games this year where the Packers needed to score more than 30 points to win. The New Orleans game was the only one in which the Packers defense was as healthy as it is now. The one game the Packers lost was the one game is which their offense was held under 20, and their defense produced no turnovers. If the Giants can produce those 2 things they will win. The odds would appeat to be against it though.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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The problem is that the playoffs are different. Defenses shut down big-time offenses. Remember New England's nearly-undefeated season? The Jints stopped Brady and Company.
I'm concerned about the Packer defense. Greatly. It's harder to manufacture points in the playoffs than it is during the regular season."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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A lot depends on how you judge the Packers defense:Originally posted by Fritz View PostBut your argument suggests that a good defense doesn't matter - but to win a SB you've got to have offense and defense.
Yardage: 32nd
Points Allowed: 19th.
Passer rating allowed: 9th
Turnovers caused: 1stI can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Offense's also light up big-time defenses.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThe problem is that the playoffs are different. Defenses shut down big-time offenses. Remember New England's nearly-undefeated season? The Jints stopped Brady and Company.
I'm concerned about the Packer defense. Greatly. It's harder to manufacture points in the playoffs than it is during the regular season.
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Top 10 scoring Ds:
I think defensive statistics are a bit harder to sort out this year. The AFC West played the NFC West and the AFC South this year. The Texans seem to be the only team out of that group with anything of note on offense, and that was before Schaub went down. Ben's been hurt and bad, Manning's been out, Dalton's good but very green, etcCode:1 Pittsburgh 4348 271.8 2751 171.9 1597 99.8 227 14.2 2 San Francisco 4930 308.1 3694 230.9 1236 77.3 229 14.3 3 Baltimore 4622 288.9 3140 196.3 1482 92.6 266 16.6 4 Houston 4571 285.7 3035 189.7 1536 96.0 278 17.4 5 Cleveland 5318 332.4 2959 184.9 2359 147.4 307 19.2 6 Miami 5522 345.1 3992 249.5 1530 95.6 313 19.6 7 Seattle 5315 332.2 3518 219.9 1797 112.3 315 19.7 8 Tennessee 5682 355.1 3629 226.8 2053 128.3 317 19.8 9 Cincinnati 5060 316.3 3385 211.6 1675 104.7 323 20.2 10 Philadelphia 5198 324.9 3397 212.3 1801 112.6 328 20.5
The AFC South did play the NFC South this year and the magical Texans with that super-stud D gave up 40 points to NO and 28 to CAR and went 2-2 against a pretty good div. Green Bay only gave up 34 and 23 to those teams and was 4-0 against the same division.
I'm not saying that Green Bay's defense is as good because I don't believe that, but I think this year's "great" defenses have mostly benefited from weaker opponents. The one team that might qualify as a truly great D is San Fransisco and Saturday will be telling there.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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No wonder fans are like a dysfunctional family this year...Originally posted by Joemailman View PostA lot depends on how you judge the Packers defense:
Yardage: 32nd
Points Allowed: 19th.
Passer rating allowed: 9th
Turnovers caused: 1st
Mom: It would be a minor miracle if someone in this family would pick up their socks. The Packers D-line will get a sack on a 3 man front before that happens.
Son: Hey! I picked up my socks last week and the D backs NEVER get any credit for leading the league in interceptions. All we hear about is "blown coverage" this and "miscommunication" that!
Dad: Don't you dare talk to your mother like that! And if we weren't last in the league in yardage I'd...
Sister: You'd what? Raise my allowance? I'm getting an A+ in chemistry and it's no big deal, but let the Packers be average in points allowed and it's "Oh my God...They're so awesome!" I'm sick of all of you! (pound pound pound pound pound SLAM!)
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Dad: (mutters) We are 15 and 1 for crying out loud.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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I disagree with the notion that defense wins championships in today's game. BIG PLAYS win games. The teams that makes the big plays at the crucial moments in the game will probably win it all. That was true of Green Bay last year...the Saints the year before that...the Giants before that.
The Packers have plenty of playmakers on both sides of the ball. If they win another title, it will be due to great plays from those guys as well as a couple of lesser known guys stepping up once in awhile as well.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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