Single biggest cause of loss

[Gunakor]

How many Packwer fans would wager their life that this team WAS A WINNER....

I wouldn't have bet my life on it, but I was convinced this team was much better than we saw yesterday. And I still am.

[Smeefers]

I voted for the turn overs, but I think it's a mix of turnovers and drops. If we get half of each, we're in the game. If we don't turn it over and don't drop the ball, we destroy them. Gotta credit the Giants, they got to us.

As for the Phillbin situation, I'm sure it had something to do with us loosing, but I don't think it was the biggest reason we lost. It was just a piece of the puzzle.

[mraynrand]

I voted 'other.' I wrote in the Gameday thread that the combination of a lot of uncertainty at various positions would really hurt. Clifton, Bulaga, Bishop, Jennings, Starks - even Cobb - all trying to round back in to playing shape. The Packers made their Superbowl run last year in major part on the back of the precision passing game, primarily between Rodgers and Jennings. They also made it with sharp line play. One TD was botched because Rodgers anticipated Jennings going outside and another was botched because Clifton passed Osi to Lang and Lang wasn't ready. Just that little bit of rust in the gears and 11 points were lost.

[pbmax]

I still say the biggest difference in the game today was having MM coach the offense all week because of the horrible death to OC Philbin's son he took over the offense all week and it showed we were disjointed our receivers were not on the same page as Arod our line looked confused at times with the playes being called I really think MM is not a good OC at least in a short range position

And it wasn't just M3 who had his fingers in the pie. He split Philbin's duties among the O staff. Apparently Edgar got the task of providing the self inflicted wound.

[pbmax]

I voted 'other.' I wrote in the Gameday thread that the combination of a lot of uncertainty at various positions would really hurt. Clifton, Bulaga, Bishop, Jennings, Starks - even Cobb - all trying to round back in to playing shape. The Packers made their Superbowl run last year in major part on the back of the precision passing game, primarily between Rodgers and Jennings. They also made it with sharp line play. One TD was botched because Rodgers anticipated Jennings going outside and another was botched because Clifton passed Osi to Lang and Lang wasn't ready. Just that little bit of rust in the gears and 11 points were lost.

Your mind is like a well oiled machine today. Unlike the offense yesterday.

[woodbuck27]

I wouldn't have bet my life on it, but I was convinced this team was much better than we saw yesterday. And I still am.

I'm asking myself. What might have transpired if we get out of the first half down 'three'? That late first half TD was a real stinker and demoralizing. All the secondary had to concentrate on was tracking the ball. Knocking it down instead of playing it like they we're being nice.

GO PACK GO!

[woodbuck27]

"We fell short," ... "That's the bottom line. Guys just didn't get the job done today." Nick Collins ....

after the Giants defeat of the Packers @ Lambeau Field, Sunday 15 Jan. 2012.

[Kiwon]

It's a headscratcher. 15-1. Finished the season with a great, come-from-behind win. Bounced back after the loss at KC. Used Week 17 and the Bye to get guys healthy.

Then the wheels come off in a blow-out loss? Wow........what a bummer.

[Brandon494]

Turnovers were the reason we lost that game with drop passes a close second. I also believe the lost of Philbin's son also had an effect, players didn't seem as fire up as they should have been for a playoff game.

[Tarlam!]

Turnovers were the reason we lost that game with drop passes a close second. I also believe the lost of Philbin's son also had an effect, players didn't seem as fire up as they should have been for a playoff game.

Make up your mind! On the other thread you say they didn't win, because they are a dome team.

[PA Pack Fan]

Desire. Hunger. You gotta want it more than the other team, and clearly we didn't.

[mraynrand]

Desire. Hunger. You gotta want it more than the other team, and clearly we didn't.

who knows? I tend to agree with you, but we could be totally wrong. You have to play better than the other team to win - and sometimes even that's not enough!

[mmmdk]

I voted 'other.' I wrote in the Gameday thread that the combination of a lot of uncertainty at various positions would really hurt. Clifton, Bulaga, Bishop, Jennings, Starks - even Cobb - all trying to round back in to playing shape. The Packers made their Superbowl run last year in major part on the back of the precision passing game, primarily between Rodgers and Jennings. They also made it with sharp line play. One TD was botched because Rodgers anticipated Jennings going outside and another was botched because Clifton passed Osi to Lang and Lang wasn't ready. Just that little bit of rust in the gears and 11 points were lost.

Pretty sharp there. So...Vote mraynrand!

“The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do.”

[th87]

In no particular order:

1. Rodgers didn't have a good game at all (by his standards). He just didn't look comfortable the entire game. Looked to scramble as soon as he got in trouble. Launched unnecessary rocket balls. Tried to hit Jennings and Finley with perfect strikes rather than just getting the ball there. That usually has worked for him, but yesterday, he didn't have his stuff.

2. Weren't there mentally. Tons of drops, but a lot of them looked like they'd be good catches had they been held on to. Those fluke fumbles should not have been happening - it wasn't like they were caused by hard hits or anything. Weakened by the long time between games?

3. The crappy pass D. Still, the defense did play better than I thought it would. The hail mary was absurd though. Even so, if the offense plays to its standard, we win. That's a shame.

[sharpe1027]

Dropped passes and turnovers were about equal since they both needlessly killed drives. Since the dropped passes were largely unforced and more in number, I voted for them.