Single biggest cause of loss

[Bossman641]

Tom Oates also ID'd lack of pass rush as the fatal flaw:
http://host.madison.com/sports/colum...871e3ce6c.html

I can't say I disagree, but I actually thought that was the best the DL had looked in a few weeks. That speaks more to how bad they had been the second half of the year in general.

It's amazing how big the difference between 2 competent pass rushers and 3 competent rushers is.

I think the whole domestic violence thing really messed Walden up. He was never great but he had a stretch (Tampa/Det/NYG) where I was beginning to think he was taking his game up a level. After that he completely fell off the cliff.

[denverYooper]

maybe he didn't watch the game either

It's funny that every outlet came out with the "lack of pass rush article" when Tramon, Bishop, and Wood made their postseason comments. Every article was pretty much the same, too, built off 3 quotes from those guys. How come no one says they're throwing the other guys in the front 7 under the bus?

[ND72]

I'm surprised no one's posted the video of that drunk broad crying over the loss.

yeah, just realized she's a friend of mine...weird, we were talking about the video, no clue it was her, then I saw the name below this morning...anyway...

Here's my "thoughts" on the game, and they are simple:

Offense: Live by the pass, die by the pass
Defense: Live by the turnover, die by the non-turnover

[mraynrand]

It's funny that every outlet came out with the "lack of pass rush article" when Tramon, Bishop, and Wood made their postseason comments. Every article was pretty much the same, too, built off 3 quotes from those guys. How come no one says they're throwing the other guys in the front 7 under the bus?

Perhaps that was a problem on defense, but it didn't seal the game for the Giants. The offense's myriad mistakes cost the Packers the game.

[mraynrand]

This is sore loser stuff. When healthy, the teams are closely matched, as we saw in both the regular season and playoff game. You can't just ignore the Packers crappy defense in a close competition.

It was close because they're normally very good offense was crappy. Their defense has been consistently mediocre all year, and they played pretty much up to expectations.

[mraynrand]

yeah, just realized she's a friend of mine...weird, we were talking about the video, no clue it was her, then I saw the name below this morning...anyway...

Here's my "thoughts" on the game, and they are simple:

Offense: Live by the pass, die by the pass
Defense: Live by the turnover, die by the non-turnover

Those are nice bromides, but they don't match the reality of the game. GB ran for 147 yards to the Giant's 95. The Packers surrendered 4 turnovers, so they would have needed twice their normal average to match their season TO differential. They died by the turnover/mistakes on offense and got beat by an offense that lived by the pass.

[Bossman641]

yeah, just realized she's a friend of mine...weird, we were talking about the video, no clue it was her, then I saw the name below this morning...anyway...

Here's my "thoughts" on the game, and they are simple:

Offense: Live by the pass, die by the pass
Defense: Live by the turnover, die by the non-turnover

I saw the video. Was it for real? It looked like fake crying to me.

[mraynrand]

It's funny that every outlet came out with the "lack of pass rush article" when Tramon, Bishop, and Wood made their postseason comments. Every article was pretty much the same, too, built off 3 quotes from those guys. How come no one says they're throwing the other guys in the front 7 under the bus?

Another point about this. You can't blame the pass rush for the crappy tackling on the 66 yard Nicks TD, the inability to keep a runner inbounds on an across the field play, and the inability to defend a hail mary. The crappiness of the secondary and LBs was totally exposed on those three critical plays.

[denverYooper]

It was close because they're normally very good offense was crappy. Their defense has been consistently mediocre all year, and they played pretty much up to expectations.

I really thought the game would turn when Bishop popped Eli and made him throw that Pick to Burnett but then the stellar offense fumbled the ball back to New York in FG range.

[ND72]

I saw the video. Was it for real? It looked like fake crying to me.

Miller products tend to affect ones actions.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can't say I disagree, but I actually thought that was the best the DL had looked in a few weeks. That speaks more to how bad they had been the second half of the year in general.

I somewhat mischaracterized Oates' opinion, he said the pass defense in general was the achillies heel, and he did kick the D line in the nuts as part of harangue. D-line was OK against the run. What happened to "pro bowler" B.J. Raji this season?

[denverYooper]

I somewhat mischaracterized Oates' opinion, he said the pass defense in general was the achillies heel, and he did kick the D line in the nuts as part of harangue. D-line was OK against the run. What happened to "pro bowler" B.J. Raji this season?

Maybe he rediscovered his love for the chronic.

[denverYooper]

I thought the rotation at LT ended up being a poor idea and probably didn't help the offense, although it had nothing to do with the drops and fumbles.

[LEWCWA]

After a few days, I really think this offense was hurt by the distractions with Joe's son dieing. They played like a unit that wasn't prepared and had other things on their minds. basically the whole week of preparation was off and it showed on sunday. dropped passes, missed passes, fumbles are all lack of focus.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I thought the rotation at LT ended up being a poor idea and probably didn't help the offense, although it had nothing to do with the drops and fumbles.

They sure invested a lot of time and energy to get Clifton back on the field. No payoff. It was expecting a lot for Clifton to come back and be in playing form after 10 weeks of rehab. Clifton should retire.