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  • Packers, Finley leaning towards long-term deal, agent says

    http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120119/PKR01/120119136/Packers-Finley-leaning-towards-long-term-deal-agent-says-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|GPG-Sports|p

    The Green Bay Packers are interested in signing Jermichael Finley to a long-term deal and would rather not use the franchise tag on the tight end, Finley’s agent said Thursday.
    “We’ve been speaking and they’ve made it clear they would like him to be back there, and Jermichael’s made it clear he would like to be back there,” Blake Baratz said. “Now that the season’s over there’s a little more time to focus on the particulars.”
    The two sides had several discussions throughout the season, though there is no immediate time frame on getting a deal done.
    The primary issue seems to be finding a number acceptable to both sides for a young player (Finley will be 25 on March 26) who has yet to reach his potential and has an impact on the offense that isn’t measurable by statistics.
    Finley (6-foot-5, 247 pounds) along with the New England Patriots’ Rob Gronkowski and the New Orleans Saints’ Jimmy Graham are the new breed of tight end that present mismatch issues for defenses and play more like giant receivers than traditional tight ends.
    Finley put up career highs with 55 receptions, 767 yards, 8 touchdowns and 14 catches of 20-plus yards in 2011. He also had 11 drops, according to STATS.
    If the sides cannot agree on a long-term deal, the Packers have the option to place the franchise tag on Finley. FootballOutsiders.com predicts the tight end franchise tender to be between $5.416 million and $5.624 million. The transition tender is expected to be in the $4.673 million to $4.852 million range, but the Packers are unlikely to use that option.
    Finley’s camp might request being franchised as a receiver since he plays wide and in the slot nearly as much as with his hand on the ground.
    “He’s a tight end, but he also plays the (No.) 1 receiver (position) and the No. 2 slot sometimes and plays in the (No.) 1 slot to the three-man side,” coach Mike McCarthy said Wednesday. “Those are the type of things when playing in a multiple offense, and we treat all the perimeter players the same, cause it’s about match-ups, they have to play all the positions.”
    The receivers’ franchise is predicted to be between $9.443 million and $9.806 million with the transition tag between $8.477 million and $8.802 million.

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    Look..this guy has unbelievable talent and a 2 cent head. Snake met him drinking...just a punk...and the tally goes to 2 gals I know he's cheated on his wife with in the past two years. I can handle T.O. in his prime, but at least T.O. was elite on the field. Let him go..Ya..we wanna save the tag for Flynn for a trade for draft picks...bet we sign Finley and he sucks after the money else we'd have locked him up.
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    Elite: Show the money.
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    Great: Lock him up.
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    Potential: He's young...he'll learn.
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    Idiot/Subpar Pro: Let him walk.
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    Immature douchebag: Pay him?...hells no..we got Tight Ends.
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    Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

  • #2
    Letting him walk without a serious effort to keeping him is silly. I've called for TT to let him walk in the past, because he really rubs me the wrong way occasionally, but M3 seems to think he's worth the addional baby-sitting investment.

    Sure, he's a tweet happy, look-at-me punk. He's not the only womanizer in the NFL but I doubt that makes him a lock to sell the playbook to the Bears. It's none of our business anyway(consenting adults).

    It has taken Finley long enough to learn the job and looking at other TEs, e.g. Vernon Davis, it seems par for the course. The Packers have servicable TEs, but none with the potential of Finley IMHO.

    A 4 year contract with a heavy tilt towards incentives, including annual roster bonuses rather than a huge signing bonus. Cutting him shouldn't provide lots of dead cap money, but the league is leaning to contracts with guaranteed money. Glad I don't have TT's job.

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    • #3
      So when can teams start signing their own "to be" free agents. I know other teams can start signing free agents at the begining of the new league year which is in March, but what about their own.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
        So when can teams start signing their own "to be" free agents. I know other teams can start signing free agents at the begining of the new league year which is in March, but what about their own.
        I believe teams can resign their own players at any time.
        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
          I believe teams can resign their own players at any time.
          Cool, wasn't sure. Thought maybe there was a deadline date, kinda like the trade deadline.

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          • #6
            The choice I wanted was:

            Do we risk paying him top money when he needs to get it to there in terms of consistency catching and securing the ball. Showing BIG play potential and real strength asurity in terms of blocking assignments or at least accept platooning when we need a blocker at TE.

            JF has to be assigment sure and he is NOT there yet.

            He drops way too many and that frustrates Aaron Rodgers and OUR offense. Somehow MM goes back ..always back to Jermichael Finley and we will likely see him get payed.

            Final analysis. Will this be a great decision...think. Time will tell us.

            We need an assignment sure TE and ONLY use TOP SHELF TE CAP money for such a TE.

            Do not pay for what you do not have.
            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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            • #7
              Finley (6-foot-5, 247 pounds) along with the New England Patriots’ Rob Gronkowski and the New Orleans Saints’ Jimmy Graham are the new breed of tight end that present mismatch issues for defenses and play more like giant receivers than traditional tight ends.
              The difference being that Gronk and Graham can make the catch.

              They should show him two contracts - the "real" contract and another one as if he had caught the balls he dropped this season. Maybe leaving money on the table would motivate him to improve his performance.

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              • #8
                I suspect the reason the Packers don't want to franchise him anymore is that he didn't play well enough to command that kind of dough. This is one where Ted was probably fortunate for not extending him during the season.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kiwon View Post
                  The difference being that Gronk and Graham can make the catch.

                  They should show him two contracts - the "real" contract and another one as if he had caught the balls he dropped this season. Maybe leaving money on the table would motivate him to improve his performance.
                  ROB GRONKOWSKI and JIMMY GRAHAM..........................................j. finley.
                  ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                  ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                  ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                  ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                  • #10
                    M3 likes him, he's coming back.
                    Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                    • #11
                      He pisses me off a lot, but I don't think we've seen the best from him. I say bring him back. He's very good at what he does, even with the drops. I trust TT to get a home team deal from him, he's not going to bust the bank. He's not going to be a top 5 pay guy. If he wants to make a ton of money, he's going to have to go to a bad team and I'm not sure he wants to do that. Bottom line, he's near the top of a short list of great TE's, you keep him.
                      - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                      • #12
                        I am not sure that column is anything more than a soft pressure play by the agent. Notice almost each scenario plays to his favor. Packers don't want to use tag, they might have to tag as a WR, each side prefers long term deal, etc.

                        I am sure in the abstract all those things are true (except WR tag, unless its a negotiated agreement, I can't see Finley winning this one) but that doesn't mean there is any general agreement on terms or any movement.

                        Intentional or not, it seems targered to create a sense of the inevitable, which won't play as well on Lombardi Ave like as it will with the public.

                        Unless he wins an appeal on the WR tag, the Packers have all the leverage except for a few choice quotes from their coach.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
                          I suspect the reason the Packers don't want to franchise him anymore is that he didn't play well enough to command that kind of dough. This is one where Ted was probably fortunate for not extending him during the season.
                          I think he'll get the money that he'd get from the tag, but they may want to use the tag on Wells. Maybe the Packers are closer to a deal with Finley than Wells.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • #14
                            Tag value for O-line is projected to be $9.4 million. Would they really want to pay Wells that much?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                              I think he'll get the money that he'd get from the tag, but they may want to use the tag on Wells. Maybe the Packers are closer to a deal with Finley than Wells.
                              I get the sense that Finley really wants to return to Green Bay. Wells may still have a chip on his shoulder from a few years ago when MM pretty much handed Wells' starting job to Spitz. While Wells would likely sign with the Packers if the money is there, he's not going to give the Packers any kind of home team discount.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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