Official "WTF TT?" draft picks theory and speculation thread

[Lurker64]

If Tom Crabtree lasts on the team, I wouldn't be surprised if it was only until Quarless was fully recovered.

Tom Crabtree's on the team because he's a good special teamer, and he's the only TE that is good at the dirty, nasty stuff. That's not a niche that's going to be filled by D.J. Williams , Quarless, or Finley. Ryan Taylor is Crabtree's main competition.

[Patler]

Tom Crabtree's on the team because he's a good special teamer, and he's the only TE that is good at the dirty, nasty stuff. That's not a niche that's going to be filled by D.J. Williams , Quarless, or Finley. Ryan Taylor is Crabtree's main competition.

The last couple weeks before Quarless was injured, there were several comments from writers that he had focused on improving his blocking, and had become just as good as Crabtree. Since Quarless was clearly the better receiver, he was on his way to cementing a full time spot as the second TE regardless of situations. Crabtree's value was declining.

See this:

http://host.madison.com/sports/football/professional/packers-notes-quarless-was-showing-promise-as-run-blocker/article_d020bfb8-2269-11e1-9136-0019bb2963f4.html

[Deputy Nutz]

Can you imagine the Packerrats howling were Konz the Packers' first round pick?

Well it wouldn't fill the biggest need but he would make an impact and fill a spot right away. You could do far worse with the pick.

[mraynrand]

Well it wouldn't fill the biggest need but he would make an impact and fill a spot right away. You could do far worse with the pick.

I agree. It's just that everyone is so focused on defense, I bet a lot of people would lose it. But that's nothing new is it?

[Fritz]

Hah. Imagine the howling that'll take place when Ted picks a wide receiver or a tight end in the first round.

[MJZiggy]

Hah. Imagine the howling that'll take place when Ted picks a wide receiver or a tight end in the first round.

You just like howling.

[Pugger]

Can you imagine the Packerrats howling were Konz the Packers' first round pick?

If Konz is still there it will depend upon if Wells signs elsewhere and we don't get Myers either.

[woodbuck27]

No QB is drafted this year.

Why is this crazy? Flynn will be leaving via Free Agency, Rodgers has a concussion history (if slight), and the only other QBs on the roster haven't proven they even belong as clipboard carriers in the NFL.

Why this is less crazy than you think? Because TT has confidence in M3's ability to mold an NFL QB out of dirt. Or tundra. And because it's TT.

Any NFL team with serious plans to make the playoffs and go deep in them has to have an awesome starting QB and a very reliable backup QB.

TT will be addressing that issue if and when we lose Matt Flynn to whichever team.

This Peyton Manning question is playing with TT's plans to either keep Matt Flynn by franchising him or the option getting some value for his development in Green Bay. As it stands TT must simply franchise Matt Flynn. As that will stand we have a very reliable backup QB.

Until the Peyton Manning question is settled. TT will hang onto Matt Flynn. Who's the loser here? I'm thinking that Matt Flynn may be a bit upset but he won't feel $poor$. He's looking at pretty good money next season if he's franchised with us and remains a backup.

[wist43]

Wells is gone, and Clifton is likely gone... so that means going into the season our starting center is Dietrich-Smith, and our starting LT is Marshall Newhouse?? Sherrod's injury was gruesome; will he even play again?? and even if he does, good God he looked awful last year - he's well on his way to Justin Harrell status.

And of course there is that pathetic front seven on the defensive side of the ball.

For all of the accolades heaped upon TT, and rightly so for the most part, he has a 7-9 roster surrounding a 16-0 QB. I think this roster is lacking front line talent at some pretty critical positions (OL and DL's, and OLB), and has virtually no depth at those positions. We're almost a mirror image of the Patriots, i.e. a great QB and a buncha hooey.

While the OL has its problems, and has been a problem since TT and M3 arrived, I do like Newhouse, and Dietrich-Smith is at least servicable - that front seven on defense though... wow, that is a mess!!

TT's philosophy says that backups developed over the past 2-4 years should be stepping into those starting rolls, but the talent simply isn't there. If TT doesn't make some moves to infuse some talent into that front seven, and depending on what the Lions do this offseason, I could see a lot of people picking the Lions to win the division next year.

Bottom line is this roster has a lot of problems.

[pbmax]

Any NFL team with serious plans to make the playoffs and go deep in them has to have an awesome starting QB and a very reliable backup QB.

TT will be addressing that issue if and when we lose Matt Flynn to whichever team...

Wood, the deadline for the tag was Monday. Flynn will be a FA. There was simply no room in the Packers cap to do a QB franchise tender without having a trade agreement in place. Manning being a FA and the RGIII sweepstakes probably made finalizing a deal next to impossible with so many options available to teams.

[pbmax]

Wells is gone, and Clifton is likely gone... so that means going into the season our starting center is Dietrich-Smith, and our starting LT is Marshall Newhouse?? Sherrod's injury was gruesome; will he even play again?? and even if he does, good God he looked awful last year - he's well on his way to Justin Harrell status.

Newhouse had some trouble but somehow muddled through a major contribution at a key spot for a 15-1 team. Bulaga and Lang are very solid and Sitton is near All-Pro. Its hardly a tire fire. The question is at Center where you need brains but not the rarest physical talent and Tackle depth and a challenger to Newhouse.

Sherrod's injury was indeed gruesome, but its a broken bone not a herniated back and he stands a good chance of returning from it. The comparison to Harrell is just laughable at this point, as the bigger question with Sherrod is timing of his rehab rather than "will he ever be healthy again?".

[King Friday]

The comparison to Harrell is just laughable at this point, as the bigger question with Sherrod is timing of his rehab rather than "will he ever be healthy again?".

Sherrod showed SOME promise when playing. He clearly has much to learn, but he was able to hold his own on occasion. It is very tough to claim any rookie from last year is a bust candidate...the kids never had a chance to work with the team until August. LT is a hard enough position to work into as a rookie with a full offseason regimen to get a kid up to speed. Trying to do it in under a month is impossible.

[Bretsky]

Newhouse had some trouble but somehow muddled through a major contribution at a key spot for a 15-1 team. Bulaga and Lang are very solid and Sitton is near All-Pro. Its hardly a tire fire. The question is at Center where you need brains but not the rarest physical talent and Tackle depth and a challenger to Newhouse.

Sherrod's injury was indeed gruesome, but its a broken bone not a herniated back and he stands a good chance of returning from it. The comparison to Harrell is just laughable at this point, as the bigger question with Sherrod is timing of his rehab rather than "will he ever be healthy again?".

The Marshmellow was the most overrated player in this forum. Hopefully he gets better.

[Bretsky]

Sherrod showed SOME promise when playing. He clearly has much to learn, but he was able to hold his own on occasion. It is very tough to claim any rookie from last year is a bust candidate...the kids never had a chance to work with the team until August. LT is a hard enough position to work into as a rookie with a full offseason regimen to get a kid up to speed. Trying to do it in under a month is impossible.

In the end Sherrod needed development and was not ready. The Tackles picked in front of him played much better....but that is how it's suppose to work. He was drafted around where he should have been. It's not like we could have traded down and picked up a stud OLB or anything

[mraynrand]

The question is at Center where you need brains but not the rarest physical talent.

Not to mention the ability to rapidly untie shoes