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  • #16
    Flynn has slipped in my estimation. I am thinking he will be a top 16 QB, not a top 15.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      Flynn has slipped in my estimation. I am thinking he will be a top 16 QB, not a top 15.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pugger View Post
        If i was Matt Flynn's agent I would advise the he aims to get signed somewhere and get 'just ready' to work out with that team and try to be the NO. 1 QB.

        Having written that we all know that the very quiet (flat) FA thing for Matt Flynn could turn into something more promising $money$ wise suddenly. The situation that Miami has created for itself has me scratching my head given that that franchise seemed so hot to get Peyton Manning.

        It looks like they elected to go into full blown rebuilding mode after trading WR Brandon Marshall for two third round picks. There doesn't seem much urgency there to win now.I believe that trade cost that franchise any chance for Peyton Manning.

        Is Matt Flynn anymore likely to end up in Miami? IMO the answer is NO.

        I hate to see this young man end up a career backup QB.
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        • #19
          Dolphins turning their focus to Flynn

          Posted by Mike Florio on March 15, 2012, 6:29 PM EDT
          Reuters

          A week ago, the Miami Dolphins didn’t want to flirt with Matt Flynn. Now, they’re getting ready to propose.

          Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that, with Peyton Manning increasingly unlikely to take his talents to his South Beach condo, the Dolphins are expected to pursue Flynn aggressively.

          Then again, the Dolphins may not get the chance.

          Flynn will visit the Seahawks, beginning Thursday night and continuing into Friday.

          If the Seahawks make Flynn an offer he can’t refuse, Flynn won’t be flying to South Florida.

          Working in Miami’s favor is the connection between Flynn and Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, based on their four years together in Green Bay. As we’ve been saying for weeks, any lack of interest in Flynn by Philbin should be regarded as a gigantic red flag.

          The interest previously wasn’t expressed because the owner had to once again swing for the fences.

          In the end, it could be up to Flynn to salvage the possibility of something resembling joy in Mudville.
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          • #20
            Colt McCoy now favored to remain the Browns’ starting quarterback

            Posted by Michael David Smith on March 16, 2012, 8:27 AM EDT
            AP

            Browns President Mike Holmgren makes no secret that he wanted to draft Robert Griffin III and was disappointed that the Rams rejected his trade offer. But now that the Griffin ship has sailed, the Browns appear to be favoring another year with Colt McCoy as the starter.

            Holmgren said Thursday that he trusts in the system the Browns have in place and believes McCoy has plenty of room for growth in that system, especially with a full offseason this year.

            We will stick with our system,” Holmgren said, via the News-Herald. “The big thing is learning the system. I think in the second year of the system you will see more productivity from the offense. We’re not going to change it, but it takes times to get good at it. If you can stick with your quarterback and you stick with the system and you stick with the coaches in the program, it works. You just have to trust me on that.”

            Browns General Manager Tom Heckert is also talking up McCoy.

            “We do think Colt has a big ceiling,” Heckert said.

            “It’s my job to get better players surrounding him. After the season, we said we have to protect him better. We have to be able to run the football, which we did at times last year. If you look at the games when we ran well and protected well, Colt played very well. Colt has proven he can play in this league. As Coach Holmgren said, another year in the system and we get him better players, he has a chance to be really good.”

            Of course, if the Browns really believed McCoy was a future elite quarterback, they wouldn’t have tried so hard to move up and draft Griffin. All the talk about McCoy’s high ceiling may be more about the Browns now resigning themselves to the fact that McCoy is the best they can do this year, after the Redskins out-maneuvered them for Griffin.

            There are other options: There’s been talk of drafting Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill at No. 4 overall. The idea of drafting Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden with the 22nd overall pick has also been floated, although Weeden is three years older than McCoy, so unless the Browns’ brass is blatantly lying when they say they think McCoy has a lot of room to grow, it’s hard to see why the Browns would think Weeden has a better future than McCoy does.

            Giving McCoy another year as the starter would be less a statement that the team believes in him as the long-term answer than a statement that the team has no better answer.

            But until they come up with a better answer, someone has to be the starter in Cleveland.

            And right now it’s looking like that someone, for 2012, will be McCoy.
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            • #21
              hope he signs in Seattle. They have more weapons than whatever Miami is doing.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Packers4Glory View Post
                hope he signs in Seattle. They have more weapons than whatever Miami is doing.
                Yes. Joe Philbin has to get moving if he really covets Matt Flynn and on the phone ...now.

                It looks like they took a sudden turn away from Peyton Manning;where just last week all the talk in Miami was over the Dolphins securing his skills.

                I felt that PM would go to the Denver Broncos but the tennessee titans really stepped in there with a solid lifetime opportunity. One that will have the NFL HO scrastching it`s head.

                Matt Flynn.... I just hope he gets with a decent team to be a starter. I want him to do well. Right now it seems that Seattle has the best shot at Matt Flynn and maybe if he leaves Seattle without a contract Miami may have some opportunity for his skills. I don`t like Miami`s chances. I cannot come up with any sensable conclusionas to how the miami Dolphins have moved this week. They were a teampoised. On the doorstep to doing something big with Peyton Manning and they shot themselves in the foot in that regard IMO.
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                • #23
                  I can't blame the Browns (after missing on Griffen) for sticking with their incumbent starter. Colt is still young and still has some potential to grow. Flynn is also a young QB with potential to grow in the right situation. From the Browns perspective, they may as well stick with the young QB that knows their system.

                  That being said, just because I can understand their perspective, doesn't mean I agree with it. Matt Flynn has the tools to be a legit NFL starter and the team that takes a gamble on him to be one is going to be happy, presuming they surround him with the appropriate pieces to succeed.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TheRaven View Post
                    I can't blame the Browns (after missing on Griffen) for sticking with their incumbent starter. Colt is still young and still has some potential to grow. Flynn is also a young QB with potential to grow in the right situation. From the Browns perspective, they may as well stick with the young QB that knows their system.

                    That being said, just because I can understand their perspective, doesn't mean I agree with it. Matt Flynn has the tools to be a legit NFL starter and the team that takes a gamble on him to be one is going to be happy, presuming they surround him with the appropriate pieces to succeed.
                    Yes ! Matt Flynn will get his opportunity.
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                    • #25
                      Maybe we are seeing why TT couldn't tag and trade Flynn. With no "cost" to pay the Packers for Flynn, Flynn is still on the market.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                        Maybe we are seeing why TT couldn't tag and trade Flynn. With no "cost" to pay the Packers for Flynn, Flynn is still on the market.
                        True, I think it would have been difficult. I think a lot of teams would have been wary of having to give something of value while also signing him to a deal. It didn't work out too great for Arizona last year with Kolb, though we are only one year into that deal.

                        However, I think the main reason Flynn has taken longer is due to the sensation that occured with Manning. Initially, he became the focus for a lot of teams (even ones he never really considered) and it put them behind on seeking out other alternatives. With Luck and Griffen spoken for now and Manning soon to choose his destination, Flynn is about to be in the position of being the most attractive QB option left for any teams that are stilll scrambling to improve their QB situation.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by TheRaven View Post
                          True, I think it would have been difficult. I think a lot of teams would have been wary of having to give something of value while also signing him to a deal. It didn't work out too great for Arizona last year with Kolb, though we are only one year into that deal.

                          However, I think the main reason Flynn has taken longer is due to the sensation that occured with Manning. Initially, he became the focus for a lot of teams (even ones he never really considered) and it put them behind on seeking out other alternatives. With Luck and Griffen spoken for now and Manning soon to choose his destination, Flynn is about to be in the position of being the most attractive QB option left for any teams that are stilll scrambling to improve their QB situation.
                          If Matt Flynn signs with another team what wil be our compensation É
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                          • #28
                            Concern in Miami that Flynn could sign with Seahawks today

                            Posted by Michael David Smith on March 16, 2012, 12:05 PM EDT
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                            With the Dolphins out of the Peyton Manning sweepstakes, attention in Miami is turning to Matt Flynn, who always seemed like a good fit because he learned coach Joe Philbin’s offense in Green Bay.

                            But there’s one problem:

                            Flynn is visiting Seattle first, and some folks in Miami are concerned that the Seahawks will make Flynn a great offer that convinces him to sign without even visiting the Dolphins.

                            Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports, quoting an unnamed associate of Flynn, that Flynn signing with Seattle before he flies to Miami can’t be ruled out.

                            Dave Hyde of the Sun Sentinel also writes that the big question right now is: whether the Dolphins can keep Flynn from Seattle.

                            Flynn could sign with the Seahawks as soon as today if Seattle makes him a great offer, and the Seahawks have plenty of money and cap space with which to do that, if they’re so inclined.

                            That would put the Dolphins in the position of not only missing out on their first choice (Peyton Manning), but also missing out on their fallback option (Matt Flynn).

                            It took a few days, but as Manning narrows his options, it appears that interest in Flynn is starting to heat up.

                            That’s not a good sign for the Dolphins.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                              If Matt Flynn signs with another team what wil be our compensation É
                              The knowledge that he had four solid seasons served as a backup to the [current] best QB in the league.

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                              • #30
                                Report: Dolphins make low-ball offer to Matt Flynn

                                Posted by Evan Silva on March 16, 2012, 12:58 PM EDT
                                Reuters

                                Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports that the Miami Dolphins are “low-balling” free agent quarterback Matt Flynn in contract negotiations.

                                The Dolphins’ thinking is apparently that Flynn wants so badly to play for head coach Joe Philbin, his offensive coordinator in Green Bay, that Flynn might be willing to settle for significantly less than market value.

                                Of course, market value for a quarterback with two career starts is ambiguous.

                                Kevin Kolb signed a reported six-year, $65 million contract with the Cardinals last offseason after seven career starts. And that deal has already been considered for termination.

                                At the same time, the Dolphins don’t have much leverage.

                                Top free agent target Peyton Manning resisted their overtures, and the quarterback market is otherwise devoid of franchise-caliber signal callers.

                                Flynn is in a better spot, drawing interest from the Seattle Seahawks.

                                Could the Fins miss out on Peyton Manning, and Matt Flynn, too?

                                It certainly seems like they’re willing to take that risk.
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