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  • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ill-now-begin/

    Tim Tebow trade talks will now begin

    Posted by Michael David Smith on March 19, 2012, 12:07 PM EDT
    Just strange how little respect the guy is getting. I happen to not like him, or his play much, but dammit, he brought the team to the playoffs, and beat the Steelers. Sure, with a lot of help from the D, but he 'did enough to not lose'. The Ravens won a SB with not much more at the QB position. I think Elway and the rest of the Broncos management is being asses about this - IMO they'd be a lot better off drafting and developing a QB they want, and letting Tebow play the next season or two instead of chasing the expensive pipe dream that is Manning.

    Tebow brings a different kind of game. He reminds me of comments about QB's being slightly glorified guards in the 50's. I would think it's hard for DC's to draw on experience to play against him, kind of how the 3-4 D was a wrinkle that caused grief before it became commonplace.
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    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      I think the insanity will be restored in 2014.
      I sure hope so! I enjoy watching teams gore their cap situations in free agency.

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      • Originally posted by Guiness View Post
        Just strange how little respect the guy is getting. I happen to not like him, or his play much, but dammit, he brought the team to the playoffs, and beat the Steelers. Sure, with a lot of help from the D, but he 'did enough to not lose'. The Ravens won a SB with not much more at the QB position. I think Elway and the rest of the Broncos management is being asses about this - IMO they'd be a lot better off drafting and developing a QB they want, and letting Tebow play the next season or two instead of chasing the expensive pipe dream that is Manning.

        Tebow brings a different kind of game. He reminds me of comments about QB's being slightly glorified guards in the 50's. I would think it's hard for DC's to draw on experience to play against him, kind of how the 3-4 D was a wrinkle that caused grief before it became commonplace.
        Could Elway be thinking that Tebow can be a decent enough QB for them in the future, with a couple years' seasoning under a very capable starter who will take the pressure and limelight away from him for those few years? In the mean time, Tebow is an experienced enough backup who can be a real change of pace from Manning.

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        • Originally posted by Patler View Post
          I think the courtship of Flynn this year shows a little more caution by GM's. Yet, the contract he signed gives Flynn an awful nice chunk of change, while still allowing him to reap the rewards if he proves himself, both short term and long term. If he flops, the Seahawks are done with him very quickly, with no long term cap issues as a result.

          Dang, if GMs all start being reasonable like this, it will make it harder for the Packers to compete!
          Before you get too worried, Vincent Jackson got 55mil for 5 and Megatron got eleventy bazillion from Det. We still have some competitive advantage.
          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

          George Orwell

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          • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
            I had a few spare hours this morning, and consolidated Woody's posts from this thread. Enjoy.

            http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/
            HAAAAAA.

            Woody, Ive been reading Florio for 6-7 years I think. Back to the days when he had a crappy website and we used to IM back and forth on a few occasions. I still have his personal email address that he keeps. I check in there a few times every day. Its unfortunate some of the thinkers on this site cannot chime in on the movements in FA. Do we really need to hear about every journeyman lineman switching AFC teams on here?
            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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            • Originally posted by Guiness View Post
              Just strange how little respect the guy is getting. I happen to not like him, or his play much, but dammit, he brought the team to the playoffs, and beat the Steelers. Sure, with a lot of help from the D, but he 'did enough to not lose'. The Ravens won a SB with not much more at the QB position. I think Elway and the rest of the Broncos management is being asses about this - IMO they'd be a lot better off drafting and developing a QB they want, and letting Tebow play the next season or two instead of chasing the expensive pipe dream that is Manning.

              Tebow brings a different kind of game. He reminds me of comments about QB's being slightly glorified guards in the 50's. I would think it's hard for DC's to draw on experience to play against him, kind of how the 3-4 D was a wrinkle that caused grief before it became commonplace.
              If im Denver I keep Tebow. How do you go into a game planning for Manning and still have the D ready for a couple of Tebow change ups??? I would love to see him playa halfback style a couple of times a game, and I think someone here said he had amazing hands in College.
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • Sign RB Michael Bush or regret it, TT!
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                • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Could Elway be thinking that Tebow can be a decent enough QB for them in the future, with a couple years' seasoning under a very capable starter who will take the pressure and limelight away from him for those few years? In the mean time, Tebow is an experienced enough backup who can be a real change of pace from Manning.
                  This is interesting. I originally posted that I thought it completely impossible that Tebow would stay. Here are some reasons he might:

                  1) He is a stand up guy and he could tolerate the demotion. Wouldn't be a prima donna about it. No drama.
                  2) Although I thought that refitting the offense for Manning would squeeze out Tebow, the Tebow offense really isn't that complex. Guy could walk in at any time and run it, with minimal practice during the week, unless...
                  3) Tebow does learn and grow into a more typical NFL offense, as other have suggested.
                  4) Your points above make sense too

                  I still think Elway tries to get rid of Tebow, but now can see how he might be able to stay

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                  • If Alex Smith signs with Miami, SF is completely screwed. They tried for Manning and whiffed and in the process could lose Smith. That's an NFC contender that is failing before the season even starts.
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                      If Alex Smith signs with Miami, SF is completely screwed. They tried for Manning and whiffed and in the process could lose Smith. That's an NFC contender that is failing before the season even starts.
                      I am not going to think about this; if I do it won't come true.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • The Favre to the 49ers talk has already begun.
                        C.H.U.D.

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                        • Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
                          The Favre to the 49ers talk has already begun.

                          hahahahahahahaha

                          If that RUMOR starts ...........you'll be blamed. (-:
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                          • Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                            If Alex Smith signs with Miami, SF is completely screwed. They tried for Manning and whiffed and in the process could lose Smith. That's an NFC contender that is failing before the season even starts.

                            That's a dicey situation and he has an $8 Million$ offer on the table in San Fran. Talk about holding some good cards.
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                            • Anyone else see that Jeff Saturday was in GB on a visit today?
                              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                              • Originally posted by ND72 View Post
                                Anyone else see that Jeff Saturday was in GB on a visit today?
                                I'll check that.

                                Amid speculation that long-time center Jeff Saturday is destined to re-join Peyton Manning in Denver, it could indeed happen.


                                Saturday starts his free-agent tour in Green Bay

                                Posted by Mike Florio on March 19, 2012, 7:46 PM EDT
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