Report: Wells Has Picked New Team

[Cleft Crusty]

To me, that is way too much for a run stuffer and for what the Packers need. If he was known for putting some pressure on the QB, that'd be a good deal. With alot of teams airing it out and our aging and questionable secondary, we need pass rush help.

I'll give you some credit for realizing the Packers need pass rush help. But I might as well give you credit for knowing your nose is attached to your face. As to the 'aging' secondary, what the hell are you talking about? The Packers have one old corner, but the rest of the secondary is extremely young - and stands to get younger if House gets in the lineup as expected, and a top draft pick and rookie FA joins the squad. The Packers could likely end up with the youngest secondary in the league this year.

[Joemailman]

Why not slam TT, this a clear fuck up on his part. Even a quality vet free agent center will not be as good his first year in the system. When you have good O-lineman you don't fuck with it.

Like in 2006 when he let an outstanding C like Mike Flanagan leave in free agency, and replaced him with a 7th round pick named Scott Wells? This was a clear fuckup on his part.

[smuggler]

I agree that letting Wells walk is probably the right call that that price. I think the Packers owe him a thank you for playing so well despite his distaste for the management. We get our 4th round comp pick in next year's draft, and we get a roster spot for a developing player, and whoever we use as center will probably play at least slightly worse than Wells.

[Joemailman]

Good chance that Wells' replacement won't be as good as Wells. However, C is one position where it's relatively easy to provide some help to an average player when needed.

[Rutnstrut]

Good chance that Wells' replacement won't be as good as Wells. However, C is one position where it's relatively easy to provide some help to an average player when needed.

No it's really not, and since you seem to think it's such an easy position to fill. Who would you put in there and not loose any ground?

[Joemailman]

No it's really not, and since you seem to think it's such an easy position to fill. Who would you put in there and not loose any ground?

You're dreaming if you think the Packers are going to keep every outstanding player in the next few years. TT will have to prioritize, and the C position ain't at the top.

[packrulz]

Wells worked his ass off and was rarely hurt but his run blocking sucked, how many times have we seen ARod hand off to Grant or Starks and they run into a wall. I'd like to find a center that can open a hole in the running game.

[pbmax]

That he was unhappy with the Spitz thing and wanted out was reported long before free agency ever started. You can't just "wrap up" someone who doesn't want to be wrapped.

It also might explain why Wells signed for $6 mil/year when the Packers offer was between 5 and 6 per. Wells ask was for $7.5/yr and neither he, nor any other center have gotten that money.

To be fair, Wells contract, if fully realized and all incentives and escalators are hit, can get up to 25.5 over 6 years.

He will be able to be replaced easily, but the worry is that it might take a year to find the guy.

[pbmax]

MJZiggy ...That sigh...disrespect or boredom?

Are you confident of the facts and those sources as the TRUTH?

MJ ... Wells did get about $6 M$ more than what TT offered him over a 4 yr. contract tenure. That's NOT chump change.

This may be his last contract in the NFL.

Didn't he deserve to get as much money as he deserved given his progress and recognition as a Pro Bowler in Green Bay by our teams GM?

If your were him MJ. What would you have done? How would you have reacted to what might be judged 'a low ball offer' ?

Well, you could choose to believe the words of the man's agent as well. But what I find interesting is that despite a sourced article and attributed quotes from the players agent you express doubt that this reveals the truth.

Can you please point to the sources you trust that cause you to believe otherwise?

[pbmax]

No it's really not, and since you seem to think it's such an easy position to fill. Who would you put in there and not loose any ground?

Probably one of the three of four lineman that will be on the camp roster from the 5th, 6th or 7th round in the last 3 years. Just like Wells became center in Year 2 as a 7th round pick.

UMM, what the hell else would he say after just inking a nice contract with another team. Truth is TT should have wrapped this up last year, this will hurt this offense a lot.

"Hello, my name is Scott Wells and though you cannot see me behind this podium, I am very excited to be here in St. Louis and feel that I bring a wealth of experience and talent to a young and exciting team. My time with the Packers was a valuable learning experience and I will always treasure my teammates, coaches and experience there. The culmination of my development resulted in a Super Bowl win and a record breaking season for our offense. My new teammates and I should benefit from those experiences, starting as soon as the offseason begins.

Plus, I look forward to a year of uncertainty with the DC being possibly suspended for his multi-year bounty system.

[Patler]

In 2009, after Spitz was named the starter, most on here would have been quite satisfied if Wells had been traded for a 4th or 5th round draft pick. As it turned out, with Spitz getting injured, the Packers got three more years out of Wells and will still get a 4th or 5th for him in compensation anyway.

I have brought this up before, but it bears remembering. A few years ago, Philbin(?) was asked if the Packers could commit to an undersized guy like Wells as the starter. Philbin said Wells was smart and technically precise, but they realized if he remained the starter there were things they couldn't ask him to do. He said the answer was to change the blocking schemes on some plays so Wells wouldn't be asked to do things he didn't do very well because of his size, and would be given help. All of a sudden, after that, Wells "became one of the better centers". But, to do so had the Packers become more limited, more predictable, less flexible?

Hopefully, losing Wells will be an opportunity for them to become better in the long run with a more versatile player at center, even if they suffer through a transition year or two in which the position is less experienced. Maybe they will get a player who can be asked to do the things that Wells was not asked to do the last few years.

[woodbuck27]

*Sigh*.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-wells-likely-will-part-eyes-jq48tpp-139774733.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"
Having dealt with Wells for eight years, this much is true about him: he has a long memory.
Wells hasn’t forgotten that the Packers cut him at the end of his first training camp.
More critically, he hasn’t forgotten how Mike McCarthy and Thompson cast him aside after three years as their starting center and replaced him with Jason Spitz in 2009.
Sources also said the Packers at the time were looking to trade Wells, an immensely proud player they knew to be furious about his demotion."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/21/wells-packers-could-be-headed-for-divorce/

"Wells and the Packers disagree on the value of the undersized veteran and Wells doesn’t sound happy about it. Wells wants a top-five center’s contract. McGinn also describes a player with a long memory that remembers being benched for Jason Spitz in 2009 and dangled on the trade market."


Yes, Woodbuck. I heard it somewhere. Wells had no intention on making this easy for the Packers and if his deal was comparable to what the Packers were offering, it pretty much explains why he left, doesn't it?

OK MJZiggy you asked for it so here it comes....



MJ I read yesterday that you didn't read Bob McGinn articles, that you were criticle of that writer. Yet you use him as a source to back up some argument on Scott Wells decision to test the FA market and contract with the St. Louis Rams. Your position is that Scott Wells had a chip on his shoulder...

RE: Scott Wells

"from what I hear Wells had a chip on his shoulder with the team" MJZiggy

"I think he may have wanted to go and I'm not sure TT had any say in the matter " MJZiggy

Doesn't Ted Thompson talk to the Packer negotiator for player contracts Russ Ball and give direction in terms of need to keep a certain packer player? I believe Scott Wells upcoming FA status was discussed between these two men and Ted Thompson certainly had a strong part in Scott Wells decision to stay in Green Bay or sell his Pro bowl status and recognized leadership on our OL elsewhere.

You argue that Scott Wells had a chip on his shoulder.

I read that he if anything given his size, he overachieved. He never complained about his contract as he didn't ask for a renegotiation. He became more profficient as our center from 3 games into the 2009 season as our starting center and improving at his position in 2010. Last season as a valued leader on our team in terms of talent and attitude; as expressed by a fellow player on our OL (TJ Lang). Scott Wells was awarded recognition as a top NFL center garnering a PRO BOWL selection.

If Scott Wells had a chip on his shoulder? He surely demonstrated that that chip translated into solid support for our team. How many of us stand up to 'the Nay Sayers' and excell? Scott Wells certainly did so as a Green Bay Packer.

What was his reward for all that from our GM? All the good Scott Wellls meant to the success of our offense?

Zippo in terms of his value to himself.

It may be declared by many Packer fans that 'in fact'. Given his market value that Ted Thompson and Packer negotiater Russ Ball 'low balled' Scott Wells. It's that or Ted Thompson undervalued Scott Wells in his estimation of Wells market Value. If Ted Thompson is on top of it all that's inconcievable that he could make such a low offer to Wells and hope to keep him.

Does that call into question Ted Thompson's compassion or caring nature? Would a negative appraisal there as the GREEN BAY PACKER GM be acceptable to you MJ?

"if his deal was comparable to what the Packers were offering, it pretty much explains why he left, doesn't it?" MJZiggy

In your estimation the Packer deal (what deal?) was comparable to what he contracted in St. Loius??

Please MJZiggy. Go back and do your homework. By my estimation the contract he signed for 4 years was as much as $6 Million$ higher than Ted Thompson's offer. Again that isn't chump change and may be the last contract he'll get in the NFL.

Scott Wells has a wife and family. He has a solid reputation as a Green Bay Packer of distinction and value as a leader and mentor. Scott Wells was graded as our best OL. Scott Wells is a Pro Bowler.

Frankly MJZiggy your argument is a wash. Your source isn't even a writer you respect. Do I need to prove that?

Do you want to be judged as a hypocrite? I hope not. I believe that your simply a tad to defensive of our esteemed Packer GM, Ted Thompson. Try to get real MJ. (-:

[woodbuck27]

In 2009, after Spitz was named the starter, most on here would have been quite satisfied if Wells had been traded for a 4th or 5th round draft pick. As it turned out, with Spitz getting injured, the Packers got three more years out of Wells and will still get a 4th or 5th for him in compensation anyway.

I have brought this up before, but it bears remembering. A few years ago, Philbin(?) was asked if the Packers could commit to an undersized guy like Wells as the starter. Philbin said Wells was smart and technically precise, but they realized if he remained the starter there were things they couldn't ask him to do. He said the answer was to change the blocking schemes on some plays so Wells wouldn't be asked to do things he didn't do very well because of his size, and would be given help. All of a sudden, after that, Wells "became one of the better centers". But, to do so had the Packers become more limited, more predictable, less flexible?

Hopefully, losing Wells will be an opportunity for them to become better in the long run with a more versatile player at center, even if they suffer through a transition year or two in which the position is less experienced. Maybe they will get a player who can be asked to do the things that Wells was not asked to do the last few years.

Holy smokes ! The second leading member here of the Ted Thompson is GOD fan club. Wait ... maybe your just the Treasurer Patler with MJZiggy leading the Happy Gang as El Presidente.


" A few years ago, Philbin(?) was asked if the Packers could commit to an undersized guy like Wells as the starter. Philbin said Wells was smart and technically precise, but they realized if he remained the starter there were things they couldn't ask him to do. He said the answer was to change the blocking schemes on some plays so Wells wouldn't be asked to do things he didn't do very well because of his size, and would be given help. All of a sudden, after that, Wells "became one of the better centers". But, to do so had the Packers become more limited, more predictable, less flexible? " Patler

had the Packers become more limited, more predictable, less flexible? " Patler

No Patler. Not even a decent try man.

Are you Irish? Have you been into ' the hootch ' all day?

The Green Bay Packers last season when Scott Wells became a Pro Bowler as OUR Center had the Number ONE Offense in the NFL. Are you suggesting that without Scott Wells we will have better than the Number One Offense in the NFL?

or

Are we grading up into some other SUPER STATUS TEAM League?

[Patler]

...and how has that running game gone the last few years? Perhaps that is the area that can improve???
The record setting offense doesn't mean everyone on offense is the best possible at their position.

[Lurker64]

I'm honestly wondering if Lang could snap, he seems like he would be a pretty good center if he can (his punch is fantastic), and LG is an easier position to fill in the draft than C.