Manny Lawson???

[KYPack]

If Kevin Greene can coach Zombo and Walden into something serviceable and Matthews into something special, might he get more out of Lawson than what he's shown so far?

Maybe not, big boy.

He's had Mike Zimmer, Mike Singletary, two top D coaches and they haven't fixed him a lick. Zimmer is totally done on the guy. One thing Lawson defintely does is hold the edge. It's the "foolin" problem that kicks his ass. He got fooled on a quick screen last season and Zimmer chewed his ass in front of God and everybody. The guy busts his ass, but he just can't get it right.

Watch Lawson on a quick WR reverse.

This is "the Problem"

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81b653c5/Murphy-43-yard-gain

[HarveyWallbangers]

Singletary was the head coach in San Fran, and their defense improved dramatically after he left. Of course, Lawson left too, but that's balanced out by how much the Bengals defense improved last year (4.4 yards/rush in 2010 to 3.9 in 2011, 27 sacks in 2010 to 47 in 2011).

[KYPack]

Singletary was the head coach in San Fran, and their defense improved dramatically after he left. Of course, Lawson left too, but that's balanced out by how much the Bengals defense improved last year (4.4 yards/rush in 2010 to 3.9 in 2011, 27 sacks in 2010 to 47 in 2011).

Singletary was also Lawson's position coach at SF. He was no HC, but he could coach some LB's.

Lawson is great against the run, BTW. If he's got position, you can't move the boy.

He is a physical talent, but just has the holes in his game we've been discussing.

[Freak Out]

ok....there is one sure fire way to tell if Lawson might work out in GB....how did Bretsky feel about him during the draft that year.

[Patler]

Singletary was also Lawson's position coach at SF. He was no HC, but he could coach some LB's.

Lawson is great against the run, BTW. If he's got position, you can't move the boy.

He is a physical talent, but just has the holes in his game we've been discussing.

I'm wondering if SIngletary can coach LBs or not. There was talk in MN this year that his old buddy Frazier was going to fire him because he failed to show up at position meetings, and pretty much did no preparation. Hard to say if he put in an effort with Lawson or not. Perhaps his rep as a player clouded the perception of him as a position coach. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

I wonder how many position coaches Lawson had in SF.

[pbmax]

If Lawson can both cover and hold the edge in the running game, then he seems very similar to Jones, doesn't he?

I thought the reason Jones simply get a second go at his position is that he couldn't pass rush a lick. But perhaps there are other issues.

So again, if Lawson can both cover and hold the edge, he is a 100% upgrade over oft-injured Zombo and fell into a well Walden. But getting the offense into 3rd and long won't help if someone else can't rush the QB.

[pbmax]

I'm wondering if SIngletary can coach LBs or not. There was talk in MN this year that his old buddy Frazier was going to fire him because he failed to show up at position meetings, and pretty much did no preparation. Hard to say if he put in an effort with Lawson or not. Perhaps his rep as a player clouded the perception of him as a position coach. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

I wonder how many position coaches Lawson had in SF.

Second hand reporter type info or 34th hand retold stories by the good folks in Minnesota? Because I was sure Mike Singletary was the embodiment of God as a coach according to the message boards and talking heads.

[Brandon494]

Hes better then what we have only because of his speed. He would not solve our pass rushing problem but would be an upgrade at ROLB. If we can get him for cheap I say go ahead and get a deal done.

[Fritz]

I'm not terribly excited about seeing a reverse on third and twenty-two go for thirty-one yards on Lawson's side.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hes better then what we have only because of his speed. He would not solve our pass rushing problem but would be an upgrade at ROLB. If we can get him for cheap I say go ahead and get a deal done.

Agreed.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If Lawson can both cover and hold the edge in the running game, then he seems very similar to Jones, doesn't he?

Except that Jones is merely average at things he does best--which might be better than the other two guys we have but that's not saying much. I don't think Jones is good at anything--just better in some things than others. He hasn't been real durable either. Lawson has been the starter for 16 games with two different teams and two different schemes, right? (Didn't Cincinnati play a 4-3 last year?) We saw enough of Walden to know that if Jones was good at anything, he would have been on the field more. Lawson's pass rush may be suspect, but it sounds like he is actually good against the run and in coverage.

We probably won't get him, but if we do, I trust Thompson will get him at a bargain rate.

[George Cumby]

ML got jobbed on the reverse, but have J-W-Z made any plays like that interception? I can't recall anything like that from that trio.

[Patler]

Lawson has managed to hold down a starting job since his rookie year for at least three different head coaches. Not one of the members of the committee the Packers have opposite Matthews can distinguish themselves enough in any area to do that. I think Lawson would be an upgrade, warts and all.

[Pugger]

If Kevin Greene can coach Zombo and Walden into something serviceable and Matthews into something special, might he get more out of Lawson than what he's shown so far?

Is Lawson an outside or inside LBer?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Weak/Right OLB