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  • #31
    Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    I like Raji and Matthews... there is some talent on the defensive side, but Raji and Matthews - and throw Pickett in there... are the only NFL calibur front seven players we have on the roster. The secondary is solid, notwithstanding last year's poor performance. Bottom line is, if you can't pressure the QB, you can't play good defense in the NFL; and the Packers can't pressure the Quarterback.
    Not yet. Do you feel this cannot be addressed in the upcoming draft?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
      Not yet. Do you feel this cannot be addressed in the upcoming draft?
      Sure it can be addressed... but will it be addressed?? Ted doesn't draft to fill holes, he drafts players - what position they play is an afterthought.

      I don't consider drafting 5 7th rounders addressing the problem.
      wist

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Pugger View Post
        I was in complete agreement with you until you said d-line. Our D line is not average. This is one area that we need to address along with ROLB. Pickett and Raji are fine but you need more than 2 decent D linemen these days.
        D-line depth is a concern. The drop off after those two is huge.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by wist43 View Post
          An elite QB can carry a team - look at Peyton Manning. With Manning the Colts were a playoff team and SB contender - w/o him, they have the first pick in the draft. The Packers and Patriots are in the same boat as Indy was... completely QB driven, with an overriding emphasis on offense. Defense is the red headed step child.

          Without Rodgers?? yes, the Packers are average on offense, and still pathetic on defense.
          With Flynn they were anything but average. Perhaps Flynn is an elite QB, or perhaps he is an average QB that looked elite because of the offense around him. I'm not saying that a terrible QB will do well, but I believe that the difference between an average QB and an elite QB is often the right offense and supporting cast.

          IMHO, QB is the most over-hyped position in all of football. They get too much credit and too much blame for the offense.

          I'm not disagreeing that the defense could stand some significant upgrades. I just think that the whole product is a pretty damn good roster top to bottom. All teams have their weaknesses, it is not just the Packers.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Iron Mike View Post
            Have I mentioned the fact that since the 1990s, the Packers' record vs. the Bears is 29-16???

            Maybe that's why these idiots don't show up around here anymore....


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            • #36
              Originally posted by wist43 View Post
              I like Raji and Matthews... there is some talent on the defensive side, but Raji and Matthews - and throw Pickett in there... are the only NFL calibur front seven players we have on the roster.
              Dude, Bishop is NFL caliber no doubt. He can blitz and can thump. He was exposed by being forced into coverage because Hawk is so lame at coverage.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                I was in complete agreement with you until you said d-line. Our D line is not average. This is one area that we need to address along with ROLB. Pickett and Raji are fine but you need more than 2 decent D linemen these days.
                I don't think it's the front 3's job to rush the QB. They're run stoppers and hole pluggers. If you look at our run stopping last year, we were middle of the pack at 14. That's why I say they were average.
                - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                • #38
                  Worst team in football I mean we went 2-15 last year...
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