One Exec "Packers Have Much Work To Do"

[Scott Campbell]

Yea he was and now hes arguably the best WR in Packers history. I highly doubt Gurley will mirror his career or come close to it. Is Driver the same player he once was? Of course not but dude still had 7 TDs last season being the 4th option.

The 4th option roster spot belongs to young up and comers that play on special teams. I highly doubt there will be much if any dropoff from Driver to either of those guys. They're cheaper, have upside, and a decade of their prime years remaining. It's nothing against Driver personally. It's a cold business decision.


And he's arguably the best WR in Packers history only if you're not counting Hutson, Sharpe and Lofton.

[Scott Campbell]

Blind squirrel, Scott

I don't see too many blind squirrels packaging 3 picks to trade back into the first round for a player they coveted.

[Brandon494]

The 4th option roster spot belongs to young up and comers that play on special teams. I highly doubt there will be much if any dropoff from Driver to either of those guys. They're cheaper, have upside, and a decade of their prime years remaining. It's nothing against Driver personally. It's a cold business decision.


And he's arguably the best WR in Packers history only if you're not counting Hutson, Sharpe and Lofton.

James Jones can't play special teams? Cobb? We can't keep 6 WRs instead of 5? Who the all-time reception leader in GB history? Who was the only WR who showed up against the Giants? I'm done but I'm willing to bet any amount of money that Driver will be playing for the Packers next season.

[wist43]

I don't see too many blind squirrels packaging 3 picks to trade back into the first round for a player they coveted.

How do you explain the worst front seven in the NFL??

I like Matthews and Raji, and applaud the picks. Still, how are we the worst front seven in the NFL??

[Scott Campbell]

Still, how are we the worst front seven in the NFL??

By using yardage as the metric for worst.

[Brandon494]

Worst front seven in the NFL? I'm guessing you mainly follow the Packers and not much else of the NFL.

[RashanGary]

The Packers love DJ Smith.

[sharpe1027]

How do you explain the worst front seven in the NFL??

Credibility killer.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers weren't good against the run, and absolutely horrible against the pass, failing to apply pressure on the QB in the second half of the season. They need improvement, I expect they will get it in this draft with the way TT and MM are downplaying their need for defensive personnel.

The Packers have drafted heavy on offense since Thompson has taken over, especially since Rodgers took over at QB. The Packers have refused to fail on offense and are ego driven on the offensive side of the ball proving they made the right decision going with Rodgers. I will believe this until the day I die. Rodgers has been given every chance, piece, and opportunity in the Packer organization, and the Packers have won a Super Bowl in 2010 and won 15 games in 2011 but to win championship you need all 3 phases of football and the Packer didn't have that in 2011.

[mraynrand]

The Packers have drafted heavy on offense since Thompson has taken over, especially since Rodgers took over at QB. The Packers have refused to fail on offense and are ego driven on the offensive side of the ball proving they made the right decision going with Rodgers.

probably has something to do with the hiring of a QB and offensive-minded coach. I guess that's where TT's ego was in 2005. Firing virtually the entire defensive coaching staff following 2008 and hiring Capers was probably another burst of ego, designed only to prevent failure by the offense.

[Brandon494]

probably has something to do with the hiring of a QB and offensive-minded coach. I guess that's where TT's ego was in 2005. Firing virtually the entire defensive coaching staff following 2008 and hiring Capers was probably another burst of ego, designed only to prevent failure by the offense.

Couldn't have said it any better myself

[King Friday]

I still wonder how you guys think some guy off the PS is going to beat out Donald Driver.

It's not that anyone thinks the PS guys are truly better than Driver right now. They aren't...they have no experience and need some seasoning. It's the fact that the #5 WR is never all that productive (can Driver stand being on the bench more than the field?), usually is counted on to help in special teams (which you really wouldn't expect Driver to do), and at some point you have to give the kids a chance to get them that valuable experience needed to take the next step in their development. Part of the reason Driver became the player he is was that he got the OPPORTUNITY to play. You have to give the kids (if they show promise and look capable) a chance.

Cobb IS better than Driver going into 2012 IMO, which means Driver is at best your #5 WR. At that spot, the PS guys offer help on special teams and are considerably cheaper. The only way to develop young kids is to bring them along in a progression...and the logical next step for a kid on the PS is the #5 WR slot. If a kid shows reasonable progress and a capacity to bring value to the 53 man roster (meaning he probably has additional value in future years) it makes more sense to plug him in now and let him earn the experience so he CAN contribute in future years. They won't be ready (or will leave for another team) if you leave them on the PS. So, in 2013, you won't have either Driver OR the promising youngster if you stupidly cling to Driver...who is well past his prime and won't be all that productive in the #5 slot anyway.

I love Driver...he will go down as one of the greatest Packer WRs in history. However, it's time to move on (just as Thompson did with Bert and gave Rodgers a chance) and take the training wheels off the bike for the kids. You rarely get better as a team by holding onto aging players past their prime if you have capable kids to replace them.

[Deputy Nutz]

probably has something to do with the hiring of a QB and offensive-minded coach. I guess that's where TT's ego was in 2005. Firing virtually the entire defensive coaching staff following 2008 and hiring Capers was probably another burst of ego, designed only to prevent failure by the offense.

I see that you are also part of the"Protect the Prince" plan.

So then you are saying that TT is just terrible at generating a consistent defense?

[Brandon494]

I see that you are also part of the"Protect the Prince" plan.

So then you are saying that TT is just terrible at generating a consistent defense?

I guess your forgetting that the defense was top 5 the past two seasons before last, no one could predict such a huge drop off.

[Brandon494]

It's not that anyone thinks the PS guys are truly better than Driver right now. They aren't...they have no experience and need some seasoning. It's the fact that the #5 WR is never all that productive (can Driver stand being on the bench more than the field?), usually is counted on to help in special teams (which you really wouldn't expect Driver to do), and at some point you have to give the kids a chance to get them that valuable experience needed to take the next step in their development. Part of the reason Driver became the player he is was that he got the OPPORTUNITY to play. You have to give the kids (if they show promise and look capable) a chance.

Cobb IS better than Driver going into 2012 IMO, which means Driver is at best your #5 WR. At that spot, the PS guys offer help on special teams and are considerably cheaper. The only way to develop young kids is to bring them along in a progression...and the logical next step for a kid on the PS is the #5 WR slot. If a kid shows reasonable progress and a capacity to bring value to the 53 man roster (meaning he probably has additional value in future years) it makes more sense to plug him in now and let him earn the experience so he CAN contribute in future years. They won't be ready (or will leave for another team) if you leave them on the PS. So, in 2013, you won't have either Driver OR the promising youngster if you stupidly cling to Driver...who is well past his prime and won't be all that productive in the #5 slot anyway.

I love Driver...he will go down as one of the greatest Packer WRs in history. However, it's time to move on (just as Thompson did with Bert and gave Rodgers a chance) and take the training wheels off the bike for the kids. You rarely get better as a team by holding onto aging players past their prime if you have capable kids to replace them.

Thats your option but I disagree, I'm sure that TT and everyone on the team would disagree with you as well.