I'm extremely happy with this pick. We picked one of the purest pass rushers in the draft and I believe his transition to olb should be made easier with Greene and Matthews present. Appears to be an immediate upgrade over our other platoon across from Matthews. Perry appears to have an excellent bull rush and his struggle with double teams should be eased with his transition to olb. I think it'd be interesting to use Perry in kind of a Terrel Suggs role; where he primarily plays standing up but is able to put his hand in the dirt on passing downs (if they feel it's necessary). Having the versatility on the edge that Perry gives us will be invaluable. Now its on to the second day where hopefully TT will address the dl and surprise us with a pick on either side of the ball that will be a contributor relatively soon.
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Packers select USC DE/OLB Nick Perry At Pick #28 Round One 2012 Draft
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I read one scouting report that said he was on his way to being 280-285 lbs. It was a weight they thought he could carry comfortably. It will be interesting to see what direction he goes with the Packers, how they will use him.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostSounds like 271 was Perry's combine weight, but his playing weight was in the 250's. He probably bulked up for the Combine to show he had the size to play DE while maintaining athleticism. I would expect him to play between 255-260.
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Yes, I was surprised he went defense; but more than that, it looks like a desperation move. TT very much chasing a need?? The Apocolypse will be upon us soon!Originally posted by Bretsky View PostPerhaps you were surprised because TT didn't take offense ?
Regardless we should be at least content. We're on the brink and TT picked somebody would could help this defense
I listed to him speak; I think he is incredibly happy GB picked him. He was disappointed he didn't go earlier but GB was the first team to call him to let him know they may select him
I guess I would rather have seen TT trade down and take an offensive player... I have faith in their ability to evaluate offensive players - I'm always skeptical of anything they do on defense - and then to chase a position?? That is very, very un-TT like.wist
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Originally posted by wist43 View PostYes, I was surprised he went defense; but more than that, it looks like a desperation move. TT very much chasing a need?? The Apocolypse will be upon us soon!
I guess I would rather have seen TT trade down and take an offensive player... I have faith in their ability to evaluate offensive players - I'm always skeptical of anything they do on defense - and then to chase a position?? That is very, very un-TT like.
I see your pessimism is fully recovered. Welcome back!
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Are you trying to spin this as a reach? It wasn't.Originally posted by wist43 View PostYes, I was surprised he went defense; but more than that, it looks like a desperation move. TT very much chasing a need?? The Apocolypse will be upon us soon!
I guess I would rather have seen TT trade down and take an offensive player... I have faith in their ability to evaluate offensive players - I'm always skeptical of anything they do on defense - and then to chase a position?? That is very, very un-TT like.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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I can't tell if your being serious or not. Perry was not only filled a need but was one of the best players left.Originally posted by wist43 View PostYes, I was surprised he went defense; but more than that, it looks like a desperation move. TT very much chasing a need?? The Apocolypse will be upon us soon!
I guess I would rather have seen TT trade down and take an offensive player... I have faith in their ability to evaluate offensive players - I'm always skeptical of anything they do on defense - and then to chase a position?? That is very, very un-TT like.
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This should make Wist happy:
AFC scout: "He's the kid from Ohio State (Vernon Gholston). Buyer beware there. He's a good athlete that, let's just say, is a little soft."
Rick Reiprish, New Orleans: "I think he's a 4-3 guy. That suits him better."
NFC scout: "Workout guy who doesn't play good."
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Certainly desperation, there probably wasn't a single mock draft that had Perry going in the first round. The kid didn't play against good competition, had no results on the field and didn't measure out well at the combine. There's simply no way he was a first round talent. Desperation move 110%.Originally posted by wist43 View PostYes, I was surprised he went defense; but more than that, it looks like a desperation move. TT very much chasing a need?? The Apocolypse will be upon us soon!
I guess I would rather have seen TT trade down and take an offensive player... I have faith in their ability to evaluate offensive players - I'm always skeptical of anything they do on defense - and then to chase a position?? That is very, very un-TT like.
Seriously though, I'm luke-warm on this pick.Last edited by sharpe1027; 04-27-2012, 10:20 AM.
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So get in here and demonstrate exactly how to post a thread. I certainly need your expertise. Don't just sit back at your keyboard and 'bitch...bitch...BITCH'.Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostGod, I miss those posters who used to post useful information from multiple paid sources about our draft picks. This is embarrassing. Reposted JSO articles?
Try to be 'a productive...positive member of Packerrats'. Maybe that's a novel idea for you to chew on but you can get there if you 'just try'.
You have a brilliant mind skinbasket but you too often waste it in a rotten attitude. You waste it posting material that isn't of the value that we deserve from you man. We need more 'good' from you Skin.
By the way that thread post just didn't come off of JSO. I didn't go to JSO and streal it as I'm not a paying customer there or havn't used their offer of a time limited 'Free membership'. I used other mens to find that story and as you once posted just didn't post 'the LINK'. I made the thread opening look at least attractive mister.
That thread opening actually comes 'from two NFL media sources' and I hoped the photo would help us celebrate this solid pick at #28 by Ted Thompson. Our team's GM got us a good one here.
Shin you've never won me with your attitude. I'm pulling for you to give us what we deserve from you.
I'm NOT trying to screw with you Skin.That's never any fun going there with me. YOU of all posters here know that's 'the TRUTH'.
Set em down 'line em up'. It's NOT that man. It's about making Packerrats GREAT.
GO Ted Thompson. Go PACKERS !!Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-27-2012, 09:58 AM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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No, I haven't studied the draft enough... and Perry was one of those guys I didn't look at much b/c he seemed pretty adamant about wanting to play DE; out of which he could only play that in a 4-3.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostAre you trying to spin this as a reach? It wasn't.
I thought he was less athletic than Upshaw, but Upshaw has warts too... not saying I wanted Upshaw there either. If they were more complete, "can't miss" prospects they would have gone much higher. So? cross our fingers and hope he fills that pass rushing roll of the edge.wist
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Perry looks more athletic than Upshaw on tape, and the combine more than verified that. Perry wanting to play 4-3 DE doesn't appear to be much of a problem.Originally posted by wist43 View PostNo, I haven't studied the draft enough... and Perry was one of those guys I didn't look at much b/c he seemed pretty adamant about wanting to play DE; out of which he could only play that in a 4-3.
I thought he was less athletic than Upshaw, but Upshaw has warts too... not saying I wanted Upshaw there either. If they were more complete, "can't miss" prospects they would have gone much higher. So? cross our fingers and hope he fills that pass rushing roll of the edge.
If they were more complete, they'd go much higher? Convenient. You could have said that about any guy we drafted."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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You're welcome:Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostGod, I miss those posters who used to post useful information from multiple paid sources about our draft picks. This is embarrassing. Reposted JSO articles?
Before Mad comes after me, this is from a printed source, not a website.#2 DE. NICK PERRY | USC 6-23/4|271 lbs|4JR Detroit, MI (King HS) 4/12/1990 (age 22) #8
A two-year starter, Nicholas “Nick” Perry was highly recruited out of HS, choosing USC over Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame and Miami (FL). After redshirting in 2008, he was used as a back-up DE in 2009 as a RS freshman (13 gp/1 st), finishing with 24 tkls, 9.0 tfl and a team-best 8.0 sacks, earning Freshman All-American honors. Perry became the full-time starter at DE in 2010 as a sophomore (12 gp/9 st), recording 25 tkls, 7.5 tfl, 4.0 sacks, 3 pbu, 2 FF and 1 FR. He returned as a starter in 2011 as a junior and has his best season (12 gp/12 st), finishing with 54 tkls, 3 pbu, 3 FF and a team-best 13.0 tfl and conference-best 9.5 sacks, earning First Team All-Pac 12 honors. Perry decided to forego his final season of eligibility and declare for the 2012 NFL Draft.
STRENGTHS: Perry is a quick, flexible athlete with sharp burst off the snap – shows the natural bend and coordination to dip his shoulder and consistently win the edge. He has very good first step quickness and does a nice job in space – has the footwork, body control and fluidity to quickly change directions. Perry uses his powerful upper body and hands to force his way into the pocket – nice job swatting blocker’s hands/arms with his violent, active hands. He read/reacts quickly with good awareness and recognition skills to chase down the play from different angles. Perry plays smart and disciplined, staying at home and restraining from biting on fakes – listens and applies coaching. He understands leverage and does a nice job staying balanced, getting lower than blockers and underneath their pads, usually attracting holding penalties. Perry does a nice job elevating and getting his hands up to knock down passes at the LOS. He works hard to collapse the pocket with a relentless motor – brings aggressive playing style on every snap and doesn’t quit. Perry rushed mostly with his hand on the ground in college, but lined up in both two and three point stance. He has good production on his résumé, capping off his career with a strong junior season, leading Pac-12 in sacks.
WEAKNESSES: Perry lacks elite size and length – undersized and can be swallowed by larger blockers. He struggles to disengage at the POA and will never be the strongest on the field – functional strength is a question mark. Perry doesn’t always explode off the snap and isn’t a sudden pass rusher. He has questionable instincts when asked to drop in coverage. Perry appears fatigued late in games and needs to show better conditioning. He projects best as a stand up OLB in a 34 scheme at the next level, but doesn’t have much experience in this area and there could be a learning curve – can he play at DE in a four-man front?
OVERALL: Perry is an extremely active edge rusher who uses his disruptive quickness and violent hand use to get to the QB in a variety of ways – fluid and smooth athlete with good body control and flexibility. He doesn’t have elite measureables with average length and he isn’t a sudden player despite his first step quickness off the snap. Perry is a hybrid pass rusher with the versatility to play with his hand on the ground or standing up in space, showing the footwork and fluid range of motion to hold his own in space. He plays fast and hard, but his lack of ideal size and length are a cause for concern – a “safe” top-25 selection.
PROJECTION: 1st-2nd Round COMPARISON: Brian Orakpo WORKOUT RESULTS: 4.58 40-YD DASH // 35 REPS // 38.5” V // 10’4” BJ // 7.25 3C // 4.66 SS</delurk>
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