Is this right? Michael HUNT "It's difficult to see Driver playing another snap in green and gold."

[woodbuck27]

If there was one reciever who had to go though, and that one wasn't donald driver, then it would be James Jones. I think that's where Wood was coming from before everyone piled on him. So, if he's the worst WR on our team and he's still pretty good, why not get some value for him? I see the validity in that argument, it's just unlikely we're going to get anything we actually need for him so the point it moot anyway.

IF we were say, the bucs or the Bengals and we had a surplus of talent at any position, I could see us trading to get a marginal starter at a different position, but there's no place on our roster that i think can be improved upon with a marginal starter.

Shit, people still want to toss Hawk, you ain't getting that kind of quality for Jones.

I simply tossed that one out there for some discussion and RE: any member of Packerrats feeling any need to slam that in terms of it came from me doesn't affect me.

It seems that the consensus is that James Jones is of more value than 'a third round pick' that we're unlikely to acquire for him. That ... given the emphasis on our passing attack. James Jones is cheap and an integral part of that attack and will remain as such until his status changes ...or he again becomes a FA.

As a board we have reached a decision on James Jones and his real value as a Green Bay Packer. It's all good.

The real point I was hoping would come up:

Should TT deal him for some value rather than just risk losing him to Free Agency for nothing in return?

That... given the time that was given to develop him and the $cost$ associated with that Vs a ZERO return.

GO PACKERS !

[Patler]

The real point I was hoping would come up:

Should TT deal him for some value rather than just risk losing him to Free Agency for nothing in return?

What do you mean, "nothing in return"? The Packers will likely get a compensatory pick, probably a 7th, maybe a 6th. The way trades go done in the NFL, they aren't likely to get much more than that for him in a trade.

The Packers time is now. Jones provides valuable insurance. Keep him this year and next, then be satisfied with a compensatory pick if he signes elsewhere in FA.

[Smeefers]

I wouldn't fret over what we're going to get for him.

[woodbuck27]

I wouldn't fret over what we're going to get for him.

Right. We're going to see him score 10 - 12 TD's and leave our team. We cash in with a 6th or 7th Rd. Compensatory pick and delay the development of another player and/or sit down DD at the end of a career. That given 'a real opportunity' might be even more special.

Thus I come back to TT trying to deal James Jones every day 'now', for a third or fourth Rd. pick. Maybe a player that can start somewhere on our team to help with balance.

[Pugger]

What do you mean, "nothing in return"? The Packers will likely get a compensatory pick, probably a 7th, maybe a 6th. The way trades go done in the NFL, they aren't likely to get much more than that for him in a trade.

The Packers time is now. Jones provides valuable insurance. Keep him this year and next, then be satisfied with a compensatory pick if he signes elsewhere in FA.

This.

[Patler]

Right. We're going to see him score 10 - 12 TD's and leave our team. We cash in with a 6th or 7th Rd. Compensatory pick and delay the development of another player and/or sit down DD at the end of a career. That given 'a real opportunity' might be even more special.

Thus I come back to TT trying to deal James Jones every day 'now', for a third or fourth Rd. pick. Maybe a player that can start somewhere on our team to help with balance.

Except it is not certain that Jones will be the one who leaves. Jennings could leave between now and then. I believe Nelson's contract is up the same year as Jones'. Could be that 2014 sees Jones and only one of Jennings and Nelson on the team.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The thoughts of trading Jones for a 3rd or 4th round pick are pipe dreams. He got zero interest last offseason and didn't do anything really to stand out last season as someone suddenly worth that price tag.

Jones won't be traded. Not my belief anyways.

[Fritz]

First, I think people who say getting a third or fourth for Jones is not going to happen are correct. It's surprising sometimes, how little teams have to give up to get a "big name" veteran who's on the block. Unless, of course, you're Dan Devine and you need a QB to try to save your sorry ass...

[Brandon494]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8012593

Good Morning America' On Donald Driver Shoe Scandal...Bitches be crazy

[woodbuck27]

First, I think people who say getting a third or fourth for Jones is not going to happen are correct. It's surprising sometimes, how little teams have to give up to get a "big name" veteran who's on the block. Unless, of course, you're Dan Devine and you need a QB to try to save your sorry ass...

You know where James Jones might end up? In New England with 'the PAT's' as part of the buddy up I see between Ted Thompson and Bill Bilichick. I believe there is evidence that their 'shadow allies'.

[Upnorth]

So in a year where the cap is not a struggle our WR situation is
Jennings
Nelson
Driver
Jones
Cobb

If we keep Driver this year I don't think we can expect to keep driver next year. Further with the amount of money thrown at WR's these days either Jennings or Nelson is gone the following year. So two years from now we would have for sure
Jennings or Nelson
Jones
Cobb

If i'm Gm i don't give Jones up for less than a second from a poor team, and that is NOT going to happen (hell i'm not even convinced we could get a fifth for him). Further we need to transition one of our 5 TE spots over to a 6th WR spot just to make sure ARod has targets in three years.

[RashanGary]

I don't know if Jennings will be gone.

The top 3 highest paid WRs in a 2011 article I read were Fitz, CJ and Marshall

6'3"
6'5"
6'4"

Seems like teams really pay for the dominant big WR's. Guys like Jennings who dominate, but don't look as good in shorts seem to be a little more under the radar. I'd like to see him a Packer for a long time. Would shatter Drivers marks.

[RashanGary]

will be interesting to see JOnes too. I talked last year about his flexibility being an issue. This year he worked on it. He's had trouble twisting back and adjusting that way. And Cobb IMO is the surest thing (of the unproven players) to be a great Packer IMO. I'm a huge fan of his game. Finley has talked about just playing his style (something I think will help him a lot. DJ Williams looked studly in college. I love his game too. We're friggin loaded. More loaded than we even know, I think.

And Alex Green. . . It could be a record setting season. OL is coming together too. Look the hell out, NFL.

[Smidgeon]

I'm not as down on Jones as others are. This last year he was better than Driver in every category except one: he fumbled once and Driver didn't fumble at all. That's right, he had more receptions, yards, and touchdowns than Donald Driver...IN 2011!!!! I imagine he'll do the same next year too. Jones was the #3 on the team last year.

[Smeefers]

I don't know if Jennings will be gone.

The top 3 highest paid WRs in a 2011 article I read were Fitz, CJ and Marshall

6'3"
6'5"
6'4"

Seems like teams really pay for the dominant big WR's. Guys like Jennings who dominate, but don't look as good in shorts seem to be a little more under the radar. I'd like to see him a Packer for a long time. Would shatter Drivers marks.

That's a really good point. Jennings has never had the ability to just take over a game at will like the other guys have.