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  • #16
    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
    Either team winning is all right by me, but I kinda hope it goes to game 7. Two big metro areas in a game 7, the ratings might almost be as high as a cooking show rerun.
    Why is it most americans don't care about hockey? Its fast action with high intensity. Who doesn't like that?
    Plenty of people in the USA love hockey, but it's hard for people living in warmer climates to relate to it. But there are places in the USA (Minnesota, North Dakota, greater Michigan, Massachusetts) where hockey is extremely popular. Surfing is probably a lot of fun to watch, but most of us can't relate to surfing.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
      They all (well, all that aren't from Minnesota) whine about not being able to see the little black puck. Attention deficit disorder, if they lose track of it for a second or two, they change the channel!

      Plus, as Eddie Murphy pointed out, black guys are not interested in anything that involves white guys with masks and sticks
      Speaking of which, while some of Fox's innovations were downright annoying, like the vapor trail, the glow puck was fantastic. It let you follow the puck along the near boards where you normally can't see what is happening except for watching where their heads are turned. HD is great, but it would be better with the glow puck.

      Badgers and Flyers fan. Harv and the Fighting Sue can get stuffed and so can the Devils.

      Long live Tim Kerr and Paul Ranheim.
      Last edited by pbmax; 06-09-2012, 04:52 PM.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #18
        So game 6 in LA. One more win to set up a great game seven. I hope NJ wins tomorrow so it can happen. For one game only go Devils.
        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

        George Orwell

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        • #19
          Seriously PB? That black puck on the white ice was too hard to follow?
          Last edited by Guiness; 06-10-2012, 10:22 PM.
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          • #20
            I hated the glow puck. The action tells you where the puck is, even if you can't see it. It is no more difficult to see than a baseball is at times. The difference is that most Americans understand baseball enough that if they lose sight of the ball it doesn't bother them, because they still understand what is going on and can quickly pick it up again. Most Americans don't understand hockey, so they panic if they can't see the puck.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Patler View Post
              I hated the glow puck. The action tells you where the puck is, even if you can't see it. It is no more difficult to see than a baseball is at times. The difference is that most Americans understand baseball enough that if they lose sight of the ball it doesn't bother them, because they still understand what is going on and can quickly pick it up again. Most Americans don't understand hockey, so they panic if they can't see the puck.
              I was a Chicago Blackhawks season ticket holder for several years in the mid-late 1980's. Going to that many games made it much easier to watch games on tv. You just get a sense of where the puck is based on the way players are reacting. I also think the flat screen high-def tv's have made hockey viewing a lot better than it used to be.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                Seriously PB? That black puck on the white ice was too hard to follow?
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                I hated the glow puck. The action tells you where the puck is, even if you can't see it. It is no more difficult to see than a baseball is at times. The difference is that most Americans understand baseball enough that if they lose sight of the ball it doesn't bother them, because they still understand what is going on and can quickly pick it up again. Most Americans don't understand hockey, so they panic if they can't see the puck.
                I know where the puck is by the action, but not being able to see it is distracting. Not paradigm-shifting or rage inducing, but distracting. And its far more difficult to see than a baseball. There are cases in each ballpark where a baseball cannot be seen (some foul territories and teams that grow ivy on the outfield wall) but in the normal course of game play, its not obscured by a wall running the length of the field.

                For the puck, its only a real problem on the near boards, where the puck is obscured by the wall (why they don't switch to an opposite field view is beyond me) and in the crease.

                And the ice is clear, not white, which of course leaves room for ads. And those ads aren't white.

                The glow puck or clear boards would help. Or a director with enough stones to show opposite rinkside cameras when the puck is being mucked around the near boards at the blue line by four players.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  I know where the puck is by the action, but not being able to see it is distracting. Not paradigm-shifting or rage inducing, but distracting. And its far more difficult to see than a baseball. There are cases in each ballpark where a baseball cannot be seen (some foul territories and teams that grow ivy on the outfield wall) but in the normal course of game play, its not obscured by a wall running the length of the field.

                  For the puck, its only a real problem on the near boards, where the puck is obscured by the wall (why they don't switch to an opposite field view is beyond me) and in the crease.

                  And the ice is clear, not white, which of course leaves room for ads. And those ads aren't white.

                  The glow puck or clear boards would help. Or a director with enough stones to show opposite rinkside cameras when the puck is being mucked around the near boards at the blue line by four players.
                  I hate clear boards too, at the few rinks I have seen them. It really doesn't help seeing the puck that well anyway.

                  In most rinks the ice is not clear, either; because as it ages it cracks, and resurfacing tends to layer the ice rather than reform it. That's why it becomes mostly a milky color, and the bright ads become muted as the season wears on. Not necessarily a problem for NHL and many NCAA rinks, where the ice is often taken out and put back in frequently, and only hot deionized water is used for resurfacing. But the ice is always put in over a colored background, usually white rink paper or paint. Some have on occasion used colored backgrounds. (I have helped put in and paint many ice sheets over the years.)

                  As for using opposite side views, that was tried briefly, too; at about the same time as the glow puck. As quickly as the puck changes sides, switching views was more distracting than helpful, confusing even the most knowledgeable as to which team was going which way. It had a very short trial.

                  I can't ever remember even the slightest concern or distraction about not seeing the puck. The general indication of the glow puck was no more informative than what I knew anyway, that the puck was along the boards, or in the crease. Besides, the glow puck was often a bit behind the actual location anyway. I was thankful when that experiment ended.

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                  • #24
                    I think it was the WSJ who said this weekend was the worst sports weekend of the year.

                    The Pacquio fight controversy
                    I'll Have Another being scratched from the Belmont
                    The NHL Playoffs still going on
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                      Seriously PB? That black puck on the white ice was too hard to follow?
                      Um, what's up with this post? I didn't make it.
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                      • #26
                        So Kings in 6. Looks like some happy NJ haters on this forum. Also good to see a new young team in a major center get a cup. If San JOse can develop a rivalry with them, maybe rating in the area will go up.

                        Also Based off your post above Guiness, you should get that concussion looked into.
                        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                        George Orwell

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                          So Kings in 6. Looks like some happy NJ haters on this forum. Also good to see a new young team in a major center get a cup. If San JOse can develop a rivalry with them, maybe rating in the area will go up.

                          Also Based off your post above Guiness, you should get that concussion looked into.
                          No one except maybe people in LA and San Jose care about hockey in Cali.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                            No one except maybe people in LA and San Jose care about hockey in Cali.
                            Isn't the old joke that 5 million Canadians have moved to California to get away from hockey?
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                              So Kings in 6. Looks like some happy NJ haters on this forum. Also good to see a new young team in a major center get a cup. If San JOse can develop a rivalry with them, maybe rating in the area will go up.

                              Also Based off your post above Guiness, you should get that concussion looked into.

                              Ha ha. Thanks, lol

                              Turns out the post was somewhat legit. Someone at my house decided to take out her frustration over being a Canadians fan by poking fun at pb!
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                              • #30
                                About time that hockey mecca that is LA got a title.
                                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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