Minicamp June 2012

[Fritz]

Is he still getting wake-up calls from the front desk???

[Brandon494]

I'm with guiness when he said oh shit with out saying . I like Bush but not as our starting CB, and I don't like what this says about shields. I envisioned big things for him, not this.

Don't take anything from that, Shields is still ahead of Bush on the depth chart and has been looking good in the OTAs so far along with Davon House. Of course they aren't in pads yet so let's wait to see how they do in training camp but I still like Shields pontenial.

[Smeefers]

Don't take anything from that, Shields is still ahead of Bush on the depth chart and has been looking good in the OTAs so far along with Davon House. Of course they aren't in pads yet so let's wait to see how they do in training camp but I still like Shields pontenial.

Man, the world is going to burn. I'm agreeing with Brandon more and more. Bush is their lead in the base D because he's a better tackler and can evade blockers better to get after the run. The reason Shields is in at Nickle is because he's a much better cover CB. If they're playing Nickle 60-70% of the time, that puts Shields as the starter.

[Pugger]

Is he still getting wake-up calls from the front desk???

[Upnorth]

Don't take anything from that, Shields is still ahead of Bush on the depth chart and has been looking good in the OTAs so far along with Davon House. Of course they aren't in pads yet so let's wait to see how they do in training camp but I still like Shields pontenial.

No damn it, I want to work myself up into a panic now. Stop trying to make sense of it. The OTA's are the closest to packerfootball until TC so I'm gonna over react as I see fit!

[pbmax]

To be real, PB, the Packers play very little 3-4 defense. It's a small fraction compared to 5 and 6 DB looks. So to say Woodson would be playing safety in nickle defense. . . I don't think anyone or their mother was saying that.

When it comes to your 3-4 look. If you call that base (and I know you do.) then Woodson playing "corner okie" in the 3-4 looks would mean he's a "safety."

But since 3-4 is such a small percentage of our defense, and Woodson's primary role is as an inside corner. . . . The reality is, he's a corner, even if he plays safety in your famous base 3-4 defense.


I think he's an inside corner/rover who would take the place of a safety when we go 3-4. Always thought that, and now it's playing out that way.

Which is a very long way of saying, he is not moving to safety to replace Collins. Which has been my contention all offseason.

Now watch him move there permanently.

[pbmax]

Don't take anything from that, Shields is still ahead of Bush on the depth chart and has been looking good in the OTAs so far along with Davon House. Of course they aren't in pads yet so let's wait to see how they do in training camp but I still like Shields pontenial.

According to the Twitter accounts, Whitt has benched Shields from base to make a point about tackling.

[pbmax]

Fun with practice jerseys:



That's a Oline of Newhouse-Friday-Saturday-Sunday-Bulaga.

Lang was out of the last practice with undisclosed ailment.

[pbmax]

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne

Not practicing for #Packers: Johnny Jones, Cobb, A. Green, Peprah, Burnett, Levine, Brooks, Lang.

-- Harrell and Coleman got more snaps than usual
-- Harrell got stuck at 40 and lost possession in last 2 minute drill of minicamp
-- Jones and Lattimore were inside but got work at OLB
-- Dezman Moses working ahead of Erik Walden with 1s (not sure about this unless Matthews sat out a portion of practice)
-- Moses had two sacks and worked inside as well
-- Neal and Worthy were inside in nickel
-- more individual work and drill than typical
-- McCarthy praised Borel and House as being different (presumably better) players this offseason
-- Crosby hit from 70 yards

[Smidgeon]

From GBPG:

Bush, Hayward, Jerron McMillian and Brandian Ross have been working mostly at inside cornerback, so it looks like the dime back probably will come from among them. Bush, a seventh-year pro, has been getting the longest look this offseason. McMillian also is in the running for playing time at safety.

Shields and second-year pro Davon House, on the other hand, have been working almost exclusively at outside cornerback, and not in the nickel or dime spots inside. So one of those two probably will be the outside cornerback opposite Williams.

“We have a lot more alternatives than we had a year ago,” Capers said.

Interesting that McMillan is getting time at corner. And Whitt had some good praise for Hayward too saying that he doesn't give up plays or make mistakes and doesn't look like a rookie. Good news on the back end.

[Smidgeon]

Fun with practice jerseys:



That's a Oline of Newhouse-Friday-Saturday-Sunday-Bulaga.

Lang was out of the last practice with undisclosed ailment.

I'm guessing Sunday is actually Sitton based on the hair... Bulaga couldn't go from a crew cut to that in two years...

But I love the photo. It will be one of those classic ones pulled out every few years.

[RashanGary]

Which is a very long way of saying, he is not moving to safety to replace Collins. Which has been my contention all offseason.

Now watch him move there permanently.

Splitting hairs. The way it's playing out, it looks like Shields will be on the field nearly 100% of the time, with the 2nd traditional safety being our "nickle" guy. I imagine Woodson would play some outside corner in jumbo/redzone looks or if he's covering a TE or big possession type out there.

If 3-4 is your base, and the Packers are going to play corner okie as their base, Wood is a safety by traditional depth chart organization.

We've had different conversations on what is base defense. When it's convenient, you call 3-4 our base. Now that 3-4 being base means Woodson would be our starting safety in base defense and therefor our starting safety by traditional football talk, you choose to disregard it.


Regardless, we're saying the same thing, just in different ways. Woodson has no title. The way our defense is called, it's hard to say whos a starter and whos a sub guy. It's a lot of grey area and we could go round and round with nobody being, "right.", just different ways of saying the same thing.

[Brandon494]

According to the Twitter accounts, Whitt has benched Shields from base to make a point about tackling.

Oh hes a horrible tackler so I wouldn't doubt that but I still believe hes closer to the player he was his rookie season than last season.

[mission]

Oh hes a horrible tackler so I wouldn't doubt that but I still believe hes closer to the player he was his rookie season than last season.

I've said it before but I thought Shields was playing great cover corner at the end of the year. Best CB we had if you want to overlook tackling (which is hard to do, I know).

[Fritz]

Given the fun of that practice-jersey photo, where the hell were Thursday and Monday?

I hear rumors that Tuesday Weld is visiting them in their dorm rooms at night.

But on a more serious note, it'll be fascinating to watch the camp battles at corner - Shields better start tackling with gusto, or he's gonna see Davon House starting to get snaps ahead of him. And while Bush has gotten some reps ahead of Shields, that's clearly a "message" thing. But if House has improved as much as MM has said and we hope, then maybe Shields will find himself either developing a fondness for tackling or developing a fondness for getting splinters in his ass.