Official 2012 Training Camp Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Seems like a little more "juice" to the defensive side of training camp this year.

But what's going on on the o-line for the backup spots? Any word on Dominguez's development or lack thereof? How's Datko doing? Newhouse? Or is it too early to say?

Haven't heard anything about Dominguez, but in that picture of him in another thread, he looks like he's in a lot better shape than last year. I think he has a lot of talent. Sounds like Datko has been struggling. Probably a candidate for the PS. Newhouse had been doing well, although he got beat pretty bad by CMIII today for a sack.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'd love for House to be the man, but a lot of guys have a hot start to camp and then fizzle. Let's hope he keeps it up.

[Joemailman]

One of the things about training camp is that you face the same players and the same offense day after day. It can get to the point where a player can start to anticipate what the guy opposite him is going to do. Sometimes guys having a great camp don't look as good once they have to face an unfamiliar foe.

On the other hand, the receivers House is guarding in camp are better than most guys he'll face in a game. So we'll see.

[Smidgeon]

One of the things about training camp is that you face the same players and the same offense day after day. It can get to the point where a player can start to anticipate what the guy opposite him is going to do. Sometimes guys having a great camp don't look as good once they have to face an unfamiliar foe.

On the other hand, the receivers House is guarding in camp are better than most guys he'll face in a game. So we'll see.

That's because they haven't yet learned to pick up that anticipation from film. In training camp, they get a feel for a player. In the regular season, they need to get that feel through film study. Considering that it's two very different ways of learning, is it a surprise that only the best can do it from day 1?

[pittstang5]

Anyone know if the Family night scrimmage is going to be nationally televised. NFL Network used to air it. I don't see it on my guide.

[rbaloha1]

Anyone know if the Family night scrimmage is going to be nationally televised. NFL Network used to air it. I don't see it on my guide.

Generally its shown on the Green Bay fox affiliate.

[RashanGary]

When they drafted Raji, they said guys iwth that body type have a hard time not getting too big. Raji came into camp his usual 337. He hasn't gained a pound in 4 years. That's a good sign. Sounds like he's stronger than ever. That's good to hear.

[RashanGary]

They had a piece on Marshall Newhouse today. Lang said Newhouse's feet, ability to slide remind him of Chad Clifton. That's quite a compliment. Of course, Lang never got to see 26 year old Clifton.

It sounds like the coaches are happy with his improvement. He's getting better every day. Smart, hard working. . . . . All that stuff.

He's one of those guys, coming from a non-pro style blocking system in college. . . . . He had to completely reshape his footwork and punch, and he was mixing positions his rookie year. Unlike a guy like Bulaga who did a lot of the things he's asked to do in the NFL already, Newhouse needed a year to get those basics down. Last year, he was being bounced around again. When he took over at LT, sure, he wasn't a good one, but Bulaga wasn't a good one his rookie year either and now he's being talked by the Packers as a stud.

I expect a huge jump out of Newhouse this year. He's dialed in at LT. His technique has to be rounding into form. He has a lot of raw talent, with the ability to move and being 320 lbs. His body has to be stronger. Lineman seem to get stronger and stronger for those first three years. He and Lang played together last year, and now are together from start to finish this offseason. He can bend and move in the run game, unlike Clifton the last few years. He's been healthy, so he's been able to practice, practice, practice getting his fundamentals down, and work, work, work getting his NFL strength. He's young. He's only 23. He came into the league very young and raw. There are rookies his age or a little younger. I really like his chances to be a good LT for us, a long term staple even.

Sherrod, after that injury keeping him out of the weight room and off the practice field for what might be close to a year. He also came from a non-pro style blocking scheme. Hopefully Newhouse can stay healthy this year. I think Sherrod is going to need a full season of practice/weights and a full offseason to even get the type of strength he would need to play. I don't think Sherrod is a bust, he's just had some bad breaks and it's going to take time to recover. He could be a great backup swing tackle for us down the road, and if he really pans out, maybe he beats Newhouse. Call me a Newhouse honk, cuz I am, but I think he's going to be tough to knock off for a long time.

[Lurker64]

Generally its shown on the Green Bay fox affiliate.

Who will also stream it through their website.

[RashanGary]

Marshmallow looks to be in better shape. Still 23. Probably a year away from really maxing out his strength. But should be a lot stronger and more sure in his duties than last year.

[RashanGary]

Oh, wait a minute

[RashanGary]

He looks better sucking in

I still say he looks in better shape.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Another early stab at the roster--based on things we've learned from the first week of practice.

QB Rodgers, Harrell
RB Starks, Green, Saine
FB Kuhn
WR Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Driver, Cobb, Gurley
TE Finley, Williams, Taylor, Crabtree
OL Newhouse, Lang, Saturday, Sitton, Bulaga, Dietrich-Smith, Sherrod, Datko

DL Raji, Pickett, Worthy, Wilson, Muir, Daniels, Guy
LB Matthews, Bishop, Hawk, Perry, Smith, Francois, Moses, Walden, So'oto
CB Williams, Hayward, House, Shields, Bush
S Woodson, Burnett, Jennings, McMillan

K Crosby
P Masthay
LS Goode

PS Coleman
PUP Quarless
SUS Hargrove, Neal

That's only 52. I had a hard time picking out a 53rd. Could be somebody they pick up from another team. I lean towards another OL. Eight is light, but they've done it before. Maybe Genus or Dominguez. I haven't really gotten a feel for how the young OL are doing. It will probably be a guy who comes out of nowhere (B. Ross). I can't see them keeping 7 WRs, so this leaves out Borel. Guy and So'oto seem the most on the bubble. I've heard bad reports on Datko, so maybe he goes to the PS.

[hoosier]

Another early stab at the roster--based on things we've learned from the first week of practice.

QB Rodgers, Harrell
RB Starks, Green, Saine
FB Kuhn
WR Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Driver, Cobb, Gurley
TE Finley, Williams, Taylor, Crabtree
OL Newhouse, Lang, Saturday, Sitton, Bulaga, Dietrich-Smith, Sherrod, Datko

DL Raji, Pickett, Worthy, Wilson, Muir, Daniels, Guy
LB Matthews, Bishop, Hawk, Perry, Smith, Francois, Moses, Walden, So'oto
CB Williams, Hayward, House, Shields, Bush
S Woodson, Burnett, Jennings, McMillan

K Crosby
P Masthay
LS Goode

PS Coleman
PUP Quarless
SUS Hargrove, Neal

That's only 52. I had a hard time picking out a 53rd. Could be somebody they pick up from another team. I lean towards another OL. Eight is light, but they've done it before. Maybe Genus or Dominguez. I haven't really gotten a feel for how the young OL are doing. It will probably be a guy who comes out of nowhere (B. Ross). I can't see them keeping 7 WRs, so this leaves out Borel. Guy and So'oto seem the most on the bubble. I've heard bad reports on Datko, so maybe he goes to the PS.

I think you forgot Manning, and agree that Datko looks like a PS or IR. Dominguez, Genus or cutdown pickup will be the eighth OL. Manning instead of So'to.

[Smidgeon]

Another early stab at the roster--based on things we've learned from the first week of practice.

QB Rodgers, Harrell
RB Starks, Green, Saine
FB Kuhn
WR Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Driver, Cobb, Gurley
TE Finley, Williams, Taylor, Crabtree
OL Newhouse, Lang, Saturday, Sitton, Bulaga, Dietrich-Smith, Sherrod, Datko

DL Raji, Pickett, Worthy, Wilson, Muir, Daniels, Guy
LB Matthews, Bishop, Hawk, Perry, Smith, Francois, Moses, Walden, So'oto
CB Williams, Hayward, House, Shields, Bush
S Woodson, Burnett, Jennings, McMillan

K Crosby
P Masthay
LS Goode

PS Coleman
PUP Quarless
SUS Hargrove, Neal

That's only 52. I had a hard time picking out a 53rd. Could be somebody they pick up from another team. I lean towards another OL. Eight is light, but they've done it before. Maybe Genus or Dominguez. I haven't really gotten a feel for how the young OL are doing. It will probably be a guy who comes out of nowhere (B. Ross). I can't see them keeping 7 WRs, so this leaves out Borel. Guy and So'oto seem the most on the bubble. I've heard bad reports on Datko, so maybe he goes to the PS.

I'm starting to feel more and more that Coleman wouldn't make it past waivers. I hope I'm wrong. I think he's got a good future and might be a better QB than Flynn. He might be Hasselback material.