TIME TO BE CONCERNED ?

[pbmax]

Vanilla, but the run defense legitmately sucked. 5 yards every time. Guys getting pushed around badly.

CJ Wilson was handled by Joe Thomas in the run game definitely, but that's a tough assignment. Last week he faced a backup I think and this week an All-Pro. Somewhere in between is the truth. Would love to see him replaced by anyone better.

[pbmax]

I take it Saturday is looking as consistent as usual?

He got abused once in the run game early. Didn't see much else.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Vanilla, but the run defense legitmately sucked. 5 yards every time. Guys getting pushed around badly.

None of their RBs averaged more than 3.8 yards/carry?

[Joemailman]

Vanilla, but the run defense legitmately sucked. 5 yards every time. Guys getting pushed around badly.

None of their RBs averaged more than 3.8 yards/carry?

In the 1st quarter when both teams had their starters in, Hardesty averaged about 4.5 yards a carry. Nothing longer than 9 yards, but consistent yardage. Raji and Wilson were definitely losing the battle at the line. 2nd team seemed to do better. Muir probably more stout than Raji against the run.

[pbmax]

Blog headline at JSO: McCarthy says Harrell's Night Not as Bad as It Seemed

If he actually said that, that's right up there with Hawk getting the play calls right and being calm.

[denverYooper]

Blog headline at JSO: McCarthy says Harrell's Night Not as Bad as It Seemed

If he actually said that, that's right up there with Hawk getting the play calls right and being calm.

Your favorite, Wilde, described it as "tepid".

[BobDobbs]

Panic? Am I the only one to have a somewhat positive reaction to the game?

I thought the weakest part of the game was our offense. Since I anticipate the offense being better than last year, I think we are fine. I was actually encouraged by a few things during the game: McMillan, Hayward, and Perry all three rookies looked good. Worthy and Daniels looked solid - should get better. Muir looked impressive and Raji and Tramon looked more like the 2010 versions. On offense, I think much better of Newhouse. I thought he was solid late last season and didn't think he had much upside. Now I think he may actually step up this season and become a pretty good player. I didn't like the overall team play or the result, but there were some strong individual performances in that game. I'm not worried about the 'team play' because it was only a preseason game with limited planning, scheming and the absence of so many players.

I just watched the game and I definitely took away some positives. Rodgers looks great, DJ Williams is a legitimate receiving target, and Newhouse is better than anyone else we have put out there at LT.

Tramon looks comfortable, the backup safeties showed some fire, DJ Smith was everywhere, I like Moses, and I think Clay Matthews is going to be a player in this league.

I wasn't too impressed with Perry. Sometimes he show something in pass rush, but in run support he's just kind of pushing on his guy. He needs to drive into them. I think he's soft and I really want him to prove me wrong.

Dline was also uninspiring. I was watching the Dline alot because that's a position that hasn't gotten hit with injuries and has a ton of competition along with a lot of combinations. They really got pushed around. Our two rookies lost their anchor alot, at least they are active. Guy, Merling, and Neal were just kind of there. Hargrove was getting knocked around. Muir was really active and I thought the best of the reserves, but he really tired by the 4th quarter and then was kind of hit or miss. It's not like he played the whole game.

I'm not going to start worrying yet. Next game if we aren't generating pass rush in the first half I'll be worried. That's probably the biggest thing they focused on fixing this postseason. So if we didn't make progress, that's a problem.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

What I am concerned about:

1) Backup QB: Harrell just looks bad and weak.
2) Depth at OT: Sherrod still no where is to found/Dalko is not ready
3) Still no replacement to Collins: Woodson moving to S in the base will help, but Jennings & and McMillian playing 70% of the time might be a horror show.
4) Dline still sucking: Worthy/Daniels are rooks, Raji not to impressive, everyone else looks just okay.
5) Team confidence: We came out rolling last year, but this years team doesn't have the same swagger. At least not yet, which may actually be a good thing.

[denverYooper]

I wasn't too impressed with Perry. Sometimes he show something in pass rush, but in run support he's just kind of pushing on his guy. He needs to drive into them. I think he's soft and I really want him to prove me wrong.

Dline was also uninspiring. I was watching the Dline alot because that's a position that hasn't gotten hit with injuries and has a ton of competition along with a lot of combinations. They really got pushed around. Our two rookies lost their anchor alot, at least they are active. Guy, Merling, and Neal were just kind of there. Hargrove was getting knocked around. Muir was really active and I thought the best of the reserves, but he really tired by the 4th quarter and then was kind of hit or miss. It's not like he played the whole game.

I'm not going to start worrying yet. Next game if we aren't generating pass rush in the first half I'll be worried. That's probably the biggest thing they focused on fixing this postseason. So if we didn't make progress, that's a problem.

The only problem with the DL rooks is that they are coming into a position that might take them a year to grow into. I like Worthy a lot but he needs a year in the S&C program before he's going to help their cause up front, IMHO. Hopefully one or more of the vets they signed will work out.

As far as Perry, I didn't get to see him play last night but I think he'll at least help out the pass rush some. I thought it was interesting that Walden played a long time last night, too.

[Bretsky]

What does Harrell have to fear? Coleman threw one pass and it was nearly a pick-6.

Free agents and other teams cuts

[hoosier]

I've got my pinky on the panic button.

We've got some key holes in key spots and a chance we can't put enough fingers in there to stop up the leaks.

As Al Pacino would say, who would wanna put their finger in a dyke?

Aside from safety and running back, I would say the holes are going to be few and far between once they get over the run of injuries. If Sherrod can't perform then they have depth problems at the outside OL positions. They also may have those at linebacker. I don't see any glaring problems, just a lack of continuity. But maybe this year will be the reverse of last year: finish the season pulling away.

[rbaloha1]

I think Brandian Ross is getting cut, so if Jennings is worse....

Ross has a nose for the ball with good tackling ability.

[rbaloha1]

CJ Wilson was handled by Joe Thomas in the run game definitely, but that's a tough assignment. Last week he faced a backup I think and this week an All-Pro. Somewhere in between is the truth. Would love to see him replaced by anyone better.

Probably sticks around only until Hargrove returns.

[Lurker64]

Probably sticks around only until Hargrove returns.

The Packers are likely to keep 6 DL, locks are Raji, Worthy, and Pickett. Daniels will probably make the roster, but C.J. Wilson is in the #5 DL spot, not the #6 DL spot. The first guy to get cut to make room for a returning Neal or Hargrove is whoever makes the roster after Wilson (Merling, Muir, Guy, Wynn, etc.)

I think honestly, Wilson is the best option they have at DE opposite Pickett in base defense (which, remember, is a run-stopping formation for the Packers.)

[Patler]

The Packers are likely to keep 6 DL, locks are Raji, Worthy, and Pickett. Daniels will probably make the roster, but C.J. Wilson is in the #5 DL spot, not the #6 DL spot. The first guy to get cut to make room for a returning Neal or Hargrove is whoever makes the roster after Wilson (Merling, Muir, Guy, Wynn, etc.)

I think honestly, Wilson is the best option they have at DE opposite Pickett in base defense (which, remember, is a run-stopping formation for the Packers.)

I wonder if Neal and/or Hargrove even make the team when their suspensions are up? I have heard very little about Neal in camp. The encouraging thing is that he has been healthy, but he doesn't seem to be turning any heads. They may have the same player in Merling. I know they like Hargrove's intensity and personality, but is that enough? It sounds like Daniels might be a similar personality.

By the time the suspensions are up, a rotation of Picket, Raji, Wilson, Worthy, Daniels and Wynnmerlingmuir might not have a glaring need for a replacement.