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  • #91
    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    Some time's one man's garbage becomes another man's garbage. I'm sure the Packers have plenty of film and an entire book on this guy. Since the Packers have shown a willingness to bring in guys like Howard Green, if they don't bring in Merriman, that should speak volumes, regardless of what we think of the guy.

    Well put. Have some faith in the man who's shown he knows a little about players.

    I know, I know! Chad 'Pinocchio' Johnson is available! (I rt-clicked 'Occochino' to see what spell check brought up, and I now have a new nickname for him!)
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      So, Sir, where is YOUR film analysis????????
      this is pretty interesting:

      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #93
        Now we're done.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • #94
          Shawne Merriman? Why don't we just bring back Javon Walker at the same time.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #95
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            this is pretty interesting:

            That is a very interesting analysis. I have heard talks about the odd reactions of the bystanders, and their apparently odd sizes before, but the details about shadow sharpness, position changes from frame to frame, etc. are all very interesting.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Patler View Post
              Durability and production, two characteristics not found in Shawne Merriman since 2007.
              Also desperation. With Starks's turf toe keeping him out for a while, Green being brought back slow, and Saine's hamstring issue... the Packers were down to around 0 NFL calibre running backs. Watching the backup OL struggle clearly indicated that an infusion of some kind of talent would be appreciated.

              The Packers signed Wells and Benson because they were in a bind at RB and on the backup OL. The Packers are in no comparable bind as concerns pass rushers. They have a pair of starters with pass rushing skills, and some backups who are young players with upside. That's certainly not desperate.

              But I'm firmly of the opinion that the reason you sign a declining player off the street (like a Howard Green or a Cedric Benson) is because you're desperate, and it's a hail mary. Sometimes those work out for you, but there's no good reason to throw a Hail Mary on 2nd and 6 from midfield with 3 minutes on the clock.
              Last edited by Lurker64; 08-22-2012, 02:46 PM.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                but there's no good reason to throw a Hail Mary on 2nd and 6 from midfield with 3 minutes on the clock.
                unless you think you can make a play!



                sorry, I just couldn't help myself!
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #98
                  gawd, TC is going on, Joe posted a ton of great photos, we have 2 pre-season games to analyze and THIS is the top thread?

                  *sigh*
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                    unless you think you can make a play!



                    sorry, I just couldn't help myself!
                    Where's Scott when you need him?!
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                    • I can't find film, we'll all just have to use our imagination.

                      "In less than two years, pass-rusher Shawne Merriman played five games for the Buffalo Bills and never got to do this Lights Out dance. He recorded one sack, the closest defender when Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton ran out of bounds."
                      http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-c...-merriman.html

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                      • The tryout suggestion is due to my lack of film on Merriman.

                        Again, anyone with a film and analysis of Merriman post steroid without knucklehead comments please share. Too many pseudo gms and comedians on this thread.

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                        • Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                          Also desperation. With Starks's turf toe keeping him out for a while, Green being brought back slow, and Saine's hamstring issue... the Packers were down to around 0 NFL calibre running backs. Watching the backup OL struggle clearly indicated that an infusion of some kind of talent would be appreciated.

                          The Packers signed Wells and Benson because they were in a bind at RB and on the backup OL. The Packers are in no comparable bind as concerns pass rushers. They have a pair of starters with pass rushing skills, and some backups who are young players with upside. That's certainly not desperate.

                          But I'm firmly of the opinion that the reason you sign a declining player off the street (like a Howard Green or a Cedric Benson) is because you're desperate, and it's a hail mary. Sometimes those work out for you, but there's no good reason to throw a Hail Mary on 2nd and 6 from midfield with 3 minutes on the clock.
                          How many sacks did the Packers have last year? Why were so many players d players drafted last season?

                          Packers still have a pass rush issue until Perry, etc. show it in real games.

                          A way to minimize "hail marys" is to continually build and find the best players that fit schemes.

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                          • Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                            The tryout suggestion is due to my lack of film on Merriman.

                            Again, anyone with a film and analysis of Merriman post steroid without knucklehead comments please share. Too many pseudo gms and comedians on this thread.
                            I believe to post in a thread about "Should the Packers sign this player" you have to either be a wannabe-GM or attempting to be funny. There's no other way to participate.

                            But, to assuage any concerns you might have, be aware that the Packers do their due diligence on everybody. They've had a conversation internally about Merriman, and he's probably on an "in case of emergency" list, but the reason they haven't bought him yet is that they do not want to. The folks at 1265 are much better at the personnel business than you and I are.

                            Merriman, if signed by any team, would not be signed before Week 1 since players who are on week 1 rosters have their entire salaries guaranteed for the year, whereas players who are put on rosters after week 1 are only paid for games they play. So the reason you don't bring in Merriman now, even for a workout, is that no team is willing to guarantee his salary for the season. Given how many games he's missed over the past few years due to one injury or another, this is prudent.
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                            • Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                              I believe to post in a thread about "Should the Packers sign this player" you have to either be a wannabe-GM or attempting to be funny. There's no other way to participate.

                              But, to assuage any concerns you might have, be aware that the Packers do their due diligence on everybody. They've had a conversation internally about Merriman, and he's probably on an "in case of emergency" list, but the reason they haven't bought him yet is that they do not want to. The folks at 1265 are much better at the personnel business than you and I are.

                              Merriman, if signed by any team, would not be signed before Week 1 since players who are on week 1 rosters have their entire salaries guaranteed for the year, whereas players who are put on rosters after week 1 are only paid for games they play. So the reason you don't bring in Merriman now, even for a workout, is that no team is willing to guarantee his salary for the season. Given how many games he's missed over the past few years due to one injury or another, this is prudent.

                              Thank you once again for stating the obvious.

                              I never once said to sign Merriman for guaranteed money without a tryout. Is there any harm to tryout SM prior to the season opener (other than hurt ditto head egos)?

                              Should the workout warrant a roster spot is it possible to sign Merriman to a game by game contract after game 1? Please reply in 50 characters or less if possible.

                              Mahalo.

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                              • Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                                I never once said to sign Merriman for guaranteed money without a tryout. Is there any harm to tryout SM prior to the season opener...?
                                What constitutes a "tryout" in yout statement above?

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